[americanophile]

good, thanks

[Cronos]

A good post. What’s Xenia’s new id?

[AuH2ORepublican]

The early Church commemorated the birth of Christ on December 25 because it was 9 months after March 25, the accepted date for the Annunciation. A Roman Emperor, concerned with Christianity’s growth,co-opted the Dec. 25 date already celebrated as Christmas Day and created from whole cloth a “Sun festival” that, in any event, was 4 days late (since the winter solstice (Dec. 21 is the shortest day of the year in the Northern Hemisphere).

[brent13a]

So let me get this straight: Because I don’t buy into Replacement Theology therefore I am automatically anti-God, anti-American, anti-christian, anti-religion?

[Robert A Cook PE]

Neat article - Well done!

[TNdandelion]

Luke 22:19, “And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and it to them saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do THIS in remembrance of Me.” But who you going to argue with? Jesus or the Catholic Church?

[BearArms]

I can take consolation only in the knowledge that these renders of civilization, who have chosen most odious bedfellows, are not fellow Christians. After all, how do you describe someone who rejects a faith's two highest holy days?

This is insane. Am I reading this right? Is he actually saying that those who disagree with him on the pagan origins of Christmas are not real Christians?

[olezip]

"There you have it!" say the critics. "And the kicker is that Jesus wasn't even born on the 25th! Besides, Christmas is unbiblical; there is no command in Scripture to celebrate the Lord's birth. Christmas is just an amalgamation of pagan feasts and the Nativity story in a nicely wrapped, brightly-colored, bow-adorned box."

What a moronic argument!

What I believe is that 2000 years ago the time for the Incarnation was at hand. The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

Whether the date selected to celebrate the incarnation was once used for a pagan holiday is NOT relevant. What is relevant is that Jesus entered the world in poverty to teach the lesson of detachment from earthly things.

The angel announced to the shepherds: "Today there is born to you in the town of David a Savior, Who is Christ the Lord."

An angelic chorus sang: "Glory to God in the highest, and peace to His people on earth."

Legend says that shepherds would imitate the song of the angels who announced the birth of Jesus so many years ago. They would call to one another, "Gloria in Excelsis!" Glory to God in the highest!

Merry Christmas!

[hershey]

A recent, puerile National Geographic special on Jesus portrayed him as a forerunner of Che Guevara, and one Baptist black man among the experts said His teachings were akin to the Olympics black power salute. They also dragged in comparisons to Mithras. He wasn’t born in a stable...if born at all, it was probably in a cave. And on and on. Really. It doesn’t matter. He was born, crucified, and died for our sins. He arose to Heaven and sits at the right Hand of God who forgives all our sins.

[Uri’el-2012]

And what of whether or not Christmas is biblical? Even if a person subscribes to Sola Scriptura, he should know that tradition precedes the Gospels (not written until 65-80 A.D.). He should know that the present canon of the New Testament wasn't compiled until the year 397 A.D. -- after the institution of Christmas. He should know that there is nothing in Scripture forbidding tradition. There are, however, passages indicating the legitimacy of tradition, such as 2 Thessalonians 2:15, which states, "So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter [emphasis mine]."

The Canon was complete very much prior to 397CE.

When Paul was talking about Traditions,
since Paul was a Jewish Pharisee,
What kind of Tradition was Paul talking about ?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[stfassisi]

The bottom line here, as it is with all birthday celebrations, is not when Jesus was born. It is that He was born.

Very nice,dear friend.

Jesus usurps pagan holidays every day of the silly human calendar because He is God and existed before a single Pagan ever existed,thus a pagan owns nothing ,especially not a calender day

[narses]

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