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Gas 'gold rush' ignites in rural New York
news.yahoo.com ^ | Dec 20, 2009 | Sebastian Smith

Posted on 12/20/2009 8:46:48 PM PST by neverdem

CALLICOON, New York (AFP) – After a lifetime struggling to make money from the land, New York farmer Bill Graby has discovered he's sitting on treasure -- possibly the biggest natural gas deposit in America.

"It's like winning the lottery," says the 6.6-foot (two-meter) dairy farmer from the picturesque town of Callicoon in the Catskills hills.

The deposit, called the Marcellus shale, stretches all the way from New York to Tennessee, containing 168 to 500 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, according to New York State's Department of Environmental Conservation.

That dwarfs the previous big daddy, the Barnett shale in Texas, and by industry estimates could meet all US gas needs for years.

"The size is potentially tremendous for the nation as a whole," John Felmy, chief economist for the American Petroleum Institute, told a Pennsylvania College of Technology conference last month.

Environmentalists fear intense drilling could bring ecological disaster to the same pristine Catskills that also contain New York City's entire drinking water supply...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bigoil; billgraby; callicoon; catskills; cuomo; energy; johnfelmy; marcellusshale; naturalgas; newyork; ny; shale
NYC's watershed is on both sides of the Hudson River, not just in the Catskill Mountains. Environuts want to kill this deal. I won't be surprised if they drill NY gas from PA.
1 posted on 12/20/2009 8:46:49 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Rest assured that the environmentalists are not going to allow this continued ascendancy of natural gas.

They will discover how terrible natural gas is and demand that it be banned like coal.

At some point, the public will need to resist these thieves.


2 posted on 12/20/2009 8:51:35 PM PST by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: neverdem

Holey moley! Maybe I should convert my car to run on natural gas?


3 posted on 12/20/2009 8:52:31 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: lonestar67

DRILL BABY DRILL!;)


4 posted on 12/20/2009 8:52:47 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: neverdem

Algore is deeply saddened.


5 posted on 12/20/2009 8:58:01 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: smokingfrog; neverdem
Holey moley! Maybe I should convert my car to run on natural gas?

Totally unnecessary.

Natural Gas to Gasoline
A firm claims to have a cheaper way to harness natural gas.

15 AUGUST 2008

A Texas company says that it has developed a cheaper and cleaner way to convert natural gas into gasoline and other liquid fuels, making it economical to tap natural-gas reserves that in the past have been too small or remote to develop.

The company behind the technology, Dallas-based Synfuels International, says that the process uses fewer steps and is far more efficient than more established techniques based on the Fischer-Tropsch process. This process converts natural gas into syngas, a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide; a catalyst then causes the carbon and hydrogen to reconnect in new compounds, such as alcohols and fuels. Nazi Germany used the Fischer-Tropsch process to convert coal and coal-bed methane into diesel during World War II.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 9:04:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: lonestar67
At some point, the public will need to resist these thieves.

I agree. I am just not sure what kind of resistance it will be, and when it will happen. I can not say what I really feel.

7 posted on 12/20/2009 9:05:20 PM PST by Mark17
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To: rabscuttle385

Oh my. The enviros are going to say we have Nazis in Texas now (besides in Vidor, I mean).


8 posted on 12/20/2009 9:11:12 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
Upstate NY Republicans fight influx of Dem voters

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

9 posted on 12/20/2009 9:13:15 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: rabscuttle385

Thanks for the link.


10 posted on 12/20/2009 9:16:48 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Don’t worry - NY State will figure out a way to ruin it.


11 posted on 12/20/2009 9:18:40 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

A three letter word, T A X! NY kills business with taxes the way Sarah Palin takes down moose.


12 posted on 12/20/2009 9:28:59 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: neverdem

................Bill Graby has discovered he’s sitting on treasure .................

Hope that he’s checked his deed and all its complications.

Here in Texas, you own the land down to say, 50 feet, so any mineral or fluid rights revert to either the original owner of record, or the state!


13 posted on 12/20/2009 9:29:07 PM PST by Noob1999 (LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS)
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To: Noob1999

Sorry, but I’ve never heard that a person’s mineral rights only extend to about a depth of 50 feet. Far as I know, those rights don’t have a limitation here in Texas.

I live in the DFW area. In July 2008, I signed onto an agreement to lease my mineral rights to a firm that is drilling and gathering natural gas from the shale deposits in this area. They “leased” the mineral rights of my 1/4 acre residential property for over $5000 for three years.

About 20 miles North of my house is a private cc/golf club I’ve been a member of since the 1980s. The club has been leasing unused land to gas drillers for several years (there are several well sites) and it brings in welcome income to the club.


14 posted on 12/21/2009 3:18:39 AM PST by octex
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To: neverdem

There are lots of issues regarding this. We have signed leases with a company and they told us that nothing will happen unless NYS agrees. IN the dire straits it is in now I am sure a “deal” will be worked out.

But neighbors are also “marking their territory” so to speak———some want to go ahead and some do not. And the good stuff underneath knows no boundaries...

It’s going to get ugly...


15 posted on 12/21/2009 7:06:31 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Mark17
I can not say what I really feel.

The very fact that you say that says the time has come.

We are being goaded to react so the nazis will have justification to act against us with force.

16 posted on 12/21/2009 7:11:31 AM PST by stboz
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