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To: Talisker
Free trade refers to the power of a free market to provide compelling reasons to pursue peace rather than war. Paul obviously feels it has to be adjusted to adequately deal with what he sees as impediments to this free trade process. I am not supporting any particular adjustment he feels is necessary - I'm just saying that he's pushing, overall, for trade as a war replacement power, versus socialism.

Ah, so sad that he's fallen for the tinsel false god of Free Trade. History is loaded with heavily trade inter-dependent nations that have ended up killing each other anyway. Trade as a means of achieving peace has long since been proven a failure. It even causes you to be more involved in war than less, since as your economy becomes more dependent upon foreign nations, so does the need to protect them with your military grow. This is what over-extended and collapsed the British Empire. Unnecessary trade, especially in anything military critical, is a weakness that attracts enemies. That's why it didn't take long for the Founders to realize that protectionism was the only effective way to build a nation and keep it intact in the long term.

46 posted on 12/17/2009 5:08:42 PM PST by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: neutronsgalore
History is loaded with heavily trade inter-dependent nations that have ended up killing each other anyway. Trade as a means of achieving peace has long since been proven a failure. It even causes you to be more involved in war than less, since as your economy becomes more dependent upon foreign nations, so does the need to protect them with your military grow. This is what over-extended and collapsed the British Empire. Unnecessary trade, especially in anything military critical, is a weakness that attracts enemies. That's why it didn't take long for the Founders to realize that protectionism was the only effective way to build a nation and keep it intact in the long term.

Congratualtions on the most screwed up, wrong-heaeded bastardization of the lessons of history I have ever read. This is a tour-de-force of evil - you have to actually understand the truth in order to lie so thoroughly.

The Founders supported protectionism and restricted free trade? LOL! Bald-faced lie. Britain was "protecting" it's trade with it's empire building? LOL - double-twist with a pike and a triple flip. Britians machinations blew up in it's face when it was confronted with America's free trade and resulting staggering growth and international power, genius.

But here's your ultimate farce: "Unnecessary trade, especially in anything military critical, is a weakness that attracts enemies. A more meaningless, incorrect, and outright absurd statement has possibly never been made. Who determines "unnecessary" trade? How can something be military "critical" yet "unnecessary"? And how would the manufacturing or acquisition of something "military critical" attract an enemy who otherwise would leave you alone, given you had such manufacturing and trade abilities?

What utter, moronic, stupid pap you've written, and all with the express goal of fundamentally confusing basic conservative issues. Begone, idiot collectivist troll.

50 posted on 12/19/2009 9:57:35 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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