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Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
Wash Post ^ | 12/15/09 | Eugene Robinson

Posted on 12/14/2009 10:01:48 PM PST by pissant

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To: HerrBlucher; magritte

See the link at post #33. Most of this committee on climate change relates to existing problems (flooding, etc) that would get worse with warming. And in the recent past, the effects of warming have been observed in Alaska. What I liked at that link is the actual work that would be done. Not to change the climate, but adapt and respond to the varying environment changes (roads, engineering, etc.). (And if I were Gov., I’d be looking at what might happen with colder temperatures as well!)

Granted, the greenhouse gas stuff to anyone that studies it is a bunch of B.S. However, as a politician, she (and others, such as Duncan Hunter) have put a bit of a question mark on our CO2 effects, but rather than saying it is B.S., will say things like “Well, it doesn’t matter if CO2 is a problem or not - I’m just interested in getting more, clean, natural gas to the U.S. market to help with our nation’s security and independence of foreign sources.”

Actualy, I was a bit surprised when Palin came out so strong in her recent facebook post. I’m glad she did, but still surprised.

One push in Alaska to “renewable” resources has more to do with price and ease than the environment. Lots of little villages, and some larger - like Skagway, use Caterpiller diesel engines to fully (or partly, as in Skagway) run their electricity. Lots of small hydroelectric projects going on to replace those diesels. (Expensive, not always reliable fuel sources with weather, equipment breakdowns etc.)


41 posted on 12/14/2009 11:36:01 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: pissant

I don’t see any contradiction in her position at all.

He is cherry picking quotes on warming trends (which may or may not have been the “scientific consensus” at the time, but are increasingly unlikely), with quotes on potential Alaskan energy strategy as a result of any moves to tax carbon.

In her postion as Governor of Alaska she would need to consider potential changes in policy on carbon initiated at the federal or global level to protect and position Alaska appropriately.

If she was concerned about warming, she has always acknowledged that climate changes over time. She “may” be less convinced of that evidence now - who wouldn’t.


42 posted on 12/15/2009 12:00:22 AM PST by militanttoby
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To: pissant

THis idiot doesn’t realize that many people, took the research as being accurate, and therefore, it strikes me that Palin or any other govenor’s action’s were correct at the time.

Now we know the research was falsified.

Stupidity.


43 posted on 12/15/2009 12:31:18 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for -20)
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To: pissant; All
Eugene is a constitutional special Olympian!

Someone inform this obviously drooling "journalist" that state governors can and should work as hard as possible to protect their state, and that no one but fascists like his Dear Reader tin god are interested in a federal mandate and oversight of every aspect of our carbon-burning lives.

My God, it is like these people who fancy themselves as intellectuals have been PITHED. Things that come out of their keyboards are just plain ignorant.

44 posted on 12/15/2009 1:36:50 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: pissant

>> “Climate change is not just an environmental issue,” wrote Palin

That’s climate change, not Climate Change, nor Global Warming.


45 posted on 12/15/2009 1:50:01 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: pissant
She's killing them. She booked a 7 PM speech in Redding for Feb 8th. Tickets, which are over $50, sold out in 36 hours. So... Palin adds a matinee to February appearance in Redding

They're going to have to find larger venues for her.

46 posted on 12/15/2009 1:58:24 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: pissant; Darnright; Entrepreneur; livius; DollyCali; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; Thunder90; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

47 posted on 12/15/2009 2:42:00 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: pissant
and for the record, 50 years ago the grant money was for global COOLING, and we were threatened with it getting colder.....

The earth does what it wants, man has become much more environmentally conscience and has gone out of his way to control damage, litter, pollution, etc.....these global warming nuts are just trying to cash in, just like the EPA, which is more harmful than good now a days, it's just a power hungry mob disguised as a useful organization

48 posted on 12/15/2009 3:39:56 AM PST by The Wizard (I support Madame President, the only President in America today)
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To: pissant

WHAT! Sarah Palin cooked the raw data and then threw it all away, suppressed dissent by bullying academic peer reviewers, praying for the deaths of skeptics, and thwarted FOIA requests by deleting all her emails concerning climate change????

Oh wait...


49 posted on 12/15/2009 4:01:59 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: pissant

If only the media would put as much effort into finding Obama’s transcripts or perhaps even a real birth certificate?


50 posted on 12/15/2009 4:33:32 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: pissant
Here's the difference, Robinson -

Palin didn't grovel to international bureaucrats, envirowackos, and leftists with an agenda to address the issue.

The sub-cabinet was created WITHIN her own state, accountable to the people of Alaska - Not to the feds or the UN - and you can bet that there would have been any cost-benefit analysis done to any RECOMMENDATIONS.

After criticism for posting Palin's op-ed, the Washpost is in spin mode. So they send out Robinson to write this BS hit piece.

51 posted on 12/15/2009 4:57:13 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

LOL - your posts are always right on and give me a chuckle!

Thanks for the Tuesday morning laugh!


52 posted on 12/15/2009 5:17:55 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: presently no screen name

The climate change movement is a scam. Our climate changes all of the time........in the 1700’s there was ice on the Thames river in London..........that period is called the ‘mini ice age’..............Al Gore, after lying to the congress about how he had no monetary advantage in global warming..(he has millions invested in a ‘carbon credits’ company in California)..Gore should be ridiculed and told to get lost...........


53 posted on 12/15/2009 5:43:21 AM PST by RRTJSP...........
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To: DocRock

If she made bad policy decisions,
it was based on the trust in “scientists” not to have an agenda.

She won’t make that mistake again.

However, the leftist “leadership” is still pursuing their genocidal, suicidal, economy destroying agenda with this fraudulent issue as their vehicle.


54 posted on 12/15/2009 5:47:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: dalight

The “scandal” should be in the fact that the leftists are still pursuing their agenda in light of the fraud revelation.

There is no “scandal” when you change your position when the basis of that position has been shown to be highly questionable.


55 posted on 12/15/2009 5:48:35 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: RRTJSP...........

Great page on man’s contribution to the greenhouse effect:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

Man’s TOTAL contribution is 0.28%.
Man’s CO2 contribution is 0.117%.

Any statisticians out there that can tell me what qualifies as “noise”?


56 posted on 12/15/2009 5:53:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: pissant; All
This hack will be online for anyone who wants to participate. At the end of the article, it reads:

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57 posted on 12/15/2009 7:10:32 AM PST by Sister_T (Stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing ... Exodus 20:15)
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It doesn’t matter if politicians believe in climate change or global warming. Other prominent Republicans like Bob McDonnell, bobby Jindal, Mark Sanford, Newt, Tim Palwenty, and Mitt Romney have acknowledged climate change. What’s important is what Republican politicians want to do about it. No Republican is going to support Cap N Trade.
58 posted on 12/15/2009 7:41:19 AM PST by yongin
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To: pissant

Bull crap. There’s no there there. She appointed a panel to study the situation. It was the prudent thing for the governor of our only Arctic state to do.

Big frickin’ deal...

- JP


59 posted on 12/15/2009 8:13:27 AM PST by Josh Painter ("We cannot spare this woman. She fights" - David Karki re: Sarah Palin)
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To: HerrBlucher

From what I have heard her say, she never emphasized the man-made part of the equation. She may or may not have believed it. Most people would not say it was an obvious fraud to begin with, so I don’t think this hurts her.


60 posted on 12/15/2009 9:08:42 AM PST by Blogger
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