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To: Nextrush
Are you speaking to National Elections exclusively or also to your local elections for US Congress and statewide elections where there are primaries?

The Rasmussen poll about the Tea Party, was misconstrued by several talking heads who presented it as a national poll, when in fact, it was a poll on CONGRESSIONAL RACES. Tea Party Tops GOP on Three-Way Generic Ballot

Your mnetioning Nixon and the EPA got me to thinking about war time presidents. GWB's dedication to the WOT and Nixon's attention to Vietnam may have burdened both men to the extent that domestic issues didn't get the attention in hindsight that those issues may have merited at the time. The road to hell *is* paved with good intentions.

My concern for the Presidential Election 2012, is centered around the nominating process: i.e. the first states of Iowa and New Hampshire in the nominating process. Iowa and their "caucus" and NH and its geographic location as well as its demographics. Neither state is conservative by any stretch, which is not to say conservatives do not reside in those states or that they're not active in politics.

What I am saying, is that those first states are not representative of the West or the South, and yet, the candidate field is often narrowed shortly after those two primaries, and *that* has to change if Republicans are going to have the chance to nominate the conservative of our nationwide choice.

16 posted on 12/10/2009 1:28:26 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx

I would say 90 percent of the people now holding office under the R label nationwide down to the lowest of offices are phony and political people.

They have zero convictions and no desire to limit government or cut spending.

I’m not here to be angry, but I have to honest to myself and God.

The situation is critical and how it gets resolved could come through primaries or third party candidates.

I often share the Canadian experience where people got fed up with the “Progressive Conservative Party” as it was known in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s.

They started the Reform Party and got their 60 or so seats out of 300 in the House of Commons. The PC Party got wiped out into a handful of seats.

The Liberal Party dominated Canada for a decade until the money people and bigwigs brought the factions together under the new “Conservative Party” label and then the new party won a few elections to form minority governments.

I could support either option in this nation right now.
Conservatives in primaries and third party conservatives as candidates if the first option fails.

We need primary challengers with third party people ready to go if RINO’s win primaries. Two candidates ready to take the RINO’s out.

The presidential race in 2012 should be run the same way.

The GOP either accepts a genuine conservative or faces one as a third party.

Freedom erodes and government enlarges regardless of which party is in power. The spending and taxes keep on coming.

Give us liberty GOP or we will give you political death.


42 posted on 12/10/2009 5:34:12 AM PST by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan)
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