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Blackwater founder Erik Prince tells Vanity Fair: 'I'm through'
The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Dec 3, 2009 | Troy Reimink

Posted on 12/05/2009 8:14:48 PM PST by Irisshlass

Edited on 12/06/2009 3:09:11 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Irisshlass
its men appear indistinguishable from Afghans. They have full beards, headscarves, and traditional knee-length shirts over baggy trousers

The beards and garb parts are true. But indistinguishable? That's ridiculous. They're distinguishable in a glance, and many of them genuinely LIKE it that way --it is power, which is their stock in trade, their daily bread.

They could be realllllly stealthy if they chose to be, but in fact most of the time they do NOT chose this.

So they're elite troopers who grow beards --big deal.

I do not blame Prince for wanting to take a break, especially with this America-hating President.

21 posted on 12/05/2009 8:49:49 PM PST by gaijin
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To: oldenuff2no

This to me just doesn’t make any sense. And now he is going to teach school? Something is a miss here.


22 posted on 12/05/2009 8:51:03 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: papasmurf

Nope, someone this smart will have a bunch of sensitive data hidden away to be disclosed if and when his heart stops. Everyone will want him to stay very healthy. No side of this knows what he has stashed.


23 posted on 12/05/2009 8:51:41 PM PST by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: Irisshlass

He is front and center telling the world what he is doing. If he hadn’t protected himself he would already be dead.


24 posted on 12/05/2009 8:56:00 PM PST by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: Irisshlass

I think if you had to deal with the high level bureaucrats and technocrats in DC on a daily basis, get betrayed, be trashed in the press for years and have the lives of your employees put at risk for a political game you’d want get a 9 to 5 job too.


25 posted on 12/05/2009 8:57:03 PM PST by Pan_Yan (If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking. - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Pan_Yan

The book you recommended is scary. Why didn’t Bush oust these people?


26 posted on 12/05/2009 8:58:44 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass

Uh, yeah, the fact that there is an investigation into Xe, for killing people. Mr. Prince could be in some big trouble. I would suspect, he’s in cya mode.


27 posted on 12/05/2009 8:59:18 PM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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To: BGHater
I was referring to President Bush. I don't recall him going after leaks at all.

Nope. He never did take the leakers to task.

Wahsington works like a Vince Flynn novel.

28 posted on 12/05/2009 9:10:58 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: Irisshlass
"This to me just doesn't make any sense. And now he is going to teach school? Something is amiss here." - Irisshlass

Maybe not... Sometimes a person has had all of the adventure they can stand. It doesn't mean you get to step back from black operations and just forget everything. It just means that, instead of working your current operation, or looking at planning your next operation, you just have keep an eye out for things coming back from the past and biting you. Even that aspect can be very trying sometimes... Quirky little things can happen that make you think something is about to come back on you - when in fact there is nothing going on at all. Paranoia goes with the territory to some extent... You know how things work, so you keep an eye out to make sure no one is working them on you. And sometimes, depending upon what you know, making some information public will keep you alive.

In other words, instead of fighting on three fronts (past, present, and future), you only have to fight on one - the past. And since you are not creating any new situations, the further away from past operations you can get, the safer (over time) you feel... But it never goes away, you never completely forget it, and you never let your guard down in regards to any potential threat.

Regards,
Raven6

29 posted on 12/05/2009 9:20:32 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: Irisshlass

I saw him do an interview on TV once and he is a scary, scary guy. If I lived next door to him for twenty years, if I went over to borrow a cup of sugar I’d make sure both my hands were in plain sight.


30 posted on 12/05/2009 9:29:43 PM PST by nina0113
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To: Pan_Yan
I’d give you mine but it’s pretty beat up. I threw it against the wall a few times.

I just put it on my library request list. What's going to make me angry enough to throw it?

31 posted on 12/05/2009 9:31:01 PM PST by nina0113
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To: Raven6

It totally makes sense to me that the guy would want to teach high school.

One of my favorite teachers in high school was a retired spy who, oddly, didn’t use a textbook. He taught American History by telling us stories, including a few of his own adventures.

In college, one of my most interesting classes was History of Espionage, taught by a former CIA agent. One of the special projects that was assigned to a team of students was to figure out how to take over San Diego. We were treated to a really different look at the local freeways, fuel supplies, media, local politics, etc.

I’d love to take a course from this guy.


32 posted on 12/05/2009 9:55:57 PM PST by married21
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To: BGHater
"Uh, yeah, the fact that there is an investigation into Xe, for killing people."

B.S. There is no investigation...

Prince doesn't need to grovel in conventional "cya" modes...

33 posted on 12/05/2009 9:57:34 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal
Of course there is.

'A wide-ranging federal grand jury investigation is being conducted on Xe's operations. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh declined to comment to the Times on the probe and did not return calls seeking comment Tuesday evening by The Associated Press.

Several former Blackwater employees told the Times they have been interviewed by prosecutors or the grand jury on various topics, including alleged weapons smuggling. Two former employees have pleaded guilty to weapons charges and are believed to be cooperating with prosecutors.'

34 posted on 12/05/2009 10:02:01 PM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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To: nina0113
".... if I went over to borrow a cup of sugar I’d make sure both my hands were in plain sight."

Why? Do you think Prince would consider you more dangerous if they weren't?

Hmmm...how many other "danger signs" do you think you might display that will need correction just to borrow a cup of sugar from a neighbor of 20 years?

If you come to the next DC tea Party...make sure you do not, for any reason, get on the Blue Line Metro.

35 posted on 12/05/2009 10:08:31 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: 2LT Radix jr; 80 Square Miles; acad1228; AirForceMom; AliVeritas; aomagrat; ariamne; ...

Who can blame him? God bless him ..
he was used. I think he built something
truly worthwhile and for which there
was a need: training police and
military all over the world and
apparently being available for high
risk operations when our govt called.

Now to this crew .. including maybe
the perfumed princes at the Pentagon
it appears he’s disposable, a target
and thrown under 0’s crowded bus.

Maybe I’m paranoid, but it could be
another way they’re weakening us and
our defense infrastructure, here and
in the warzones.

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Vanity Fair article

Tycoon, Contractor, Soldier, Spy
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/01/blackwater-201001?currentPage=1

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Excerpt:

I put myself and my company at the C.I.A.’s disposal for some very risky missions,” says Erik Prince as he surveys his heavily fortified, 7,000-acre compound in rural Moyock, North Carolina.

“But when it became politically expedient to do so, someone threw me under the bus.” Prince—the founder of Blackwater, the world’s most notorious private military contractor—is royally steamed. He wants to vent. And he wants you to hear him vent.


36 posted on 12/05/2009 10:13:24 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: WHBates

yes, it reminds me of all the morons I have met whom within ten minutes of introduction claim they are members of the IRA, the mob or Russian mafia.


37 posted on 12/05/2009 10:17:49 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: OldDeckHand; All

The other problem is our leaders sign agreements with other countries and then it hampers our ability to target terrorists or others who want to harm America.

Blackwater, and their ilk, are “private” - and that gives them the ability to go places (incognito) and do things our military, by law, cannot do.

People must have their head burried in the sand, if they believe we don’t target EVIL PEOPLE who intend to harm us.


38 posted on 12/05/2009 10:19:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: STARWISE
One can never be too paranoid in Obama’s screwed up America...
39 posted on 12/05/2009 10:20:01 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: maine-iac7
* Republicans are an endangered species

Rightly so... they brought it on themselves. Conservatives, however, ARE NOT...

40 posted on 12/05/2009 10:21:37 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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