Romney lays out plan to fix economy

CNN ^ | Dec 3, 2009 | CNN

[Godzilla]

At least his hair looks good.

[Sequoyah101]

His friggin’ teeth probably cost more than my house.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

[Peter Horry]

[CharlesWayneCT]

He didn’t do the olympics as governor of mass.

This isn’t a discussion of Romney’s accomplishments as governor of mass.

This is a discussion of the 10 points Romney has suggested would fix the economy.

I don’t believe that as Governor of mass, Romney did anything to fix this current financial crisis.

[CharlesWayneCT]

And what does this have to do with a 10-point plan to fix the economy? Do you reject the 10 points because you don’t like the author? Or do you reject them because you have a disagreement with them?

Or is it simply impossible for us to have any discussion about the 10 points, because people can’t get past their opinions of the author’s political fortunes?

[novemberslady]

You keep bringing up the olympics as an accomplishment of his.
I asked you a direct question about what his accomplishments as Gov were.
I notice you're not answering that.

Mitt's laying out his ten point plan here to solve problems.

I'd really like to know what he did while he was in a position to do some real good.
Not just what he'd like to do while thinking about campaigning again.

I'm giving you the chance to prove that he can do more than just talk a good game.

[meadsjn]

I didn't read the 10-point plan. Whether I would reject or accept the points in the plan is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that Romney cannot be trusted to tell the same version of his truth from one campaign stop to the next. He is unprincipled.

[Diogenesis]

Romney’s main accomplishments as Governor included
covering up the BIG-DIG forever (for campaign contributions)
and imposing BOTH gay marriage and RomneyCARE and
ROMNEY DEATH PANELS without a single voter having a say.

Some say his greatest accomplishment was destroying
the Mass Constitution by imposing RomneyMarriage to satisfy
his lust for control (Is not Romney the preObama, again?)

[crunk]

Pretty good list... and Reagan supported free trade. Romney is late added guest on Larry King - CNN tonite based on this timely slam of Obama’s job summit.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I only brought it up once. Someone said he couldn’t change a tire. I mentioned that he seemed a bit more accomplished than that.

I didn’t ask how those saying Romney was incompetent were doing with their multi-hundred-million-dollar businesses.

This is not a thread discussing Romney’s accomplishments, it is a thread discussing a 10-point plan to improve the economy.

Or at least it would be if people weren’t so hung up on hijacking the thread to discuss the political fortunes of a person who isn’t running for an office which isn’t up for election for 3 years.

I have no interest in presenting evidence, much less “proving”, that Romney can do politically. I presume you don’t either.

I do however believe Romney has proven his worth as a businessman, and it used to be that even his detractors would begrudge him his accomplishments.

Not that it matters really in this thread — nobody is arguing that the points are good because Romney knows what he’s doing in business. (I don’t argue from authority).

In fact, nobody is discussing the points at all, which is the point I’m trying to prove in this thread — that the RDS is so bad that it has spilled from an entertaining if not useful task of keeping Romney from winning a nomination he’ll never win in 2012 (since he couldn’t even win it in 2008 when the field was wide open), and is now infecting FR, keeping us from discussing valuable topics of critical importance.

Actually, though, a few kind freepers have risen to the occasion and given their opinion on the topic. Most are still stuck in “Ack!!! Romney!!!” mode.

I guess I’d prefer to be discussing Palin’s 10-point plan, at least then people might discuss the plan (although I imagine in such a thread nobody would be allowed to criticize any of the points).

[CharlesWayneCT]

And why is that relevant in a discussion about how to fix the economy?

Or do you think every thread on every topic should instead be about how Romney shouldn’t be president?

Because I think that is already covered in the fr-block at the top of each page of every thread, so you don’t really have to take your time to repeat it.

However, if you see anybody on a thread actually say they wish Romney was President, go right ahead and tell them how wrong they are.

I haven’t seen that on THIS thread though.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I guess if he was a good conservative he would have fed the list to Palin so SHE could publish it and get on Larry King. Then at least we could discuss it.

[Diogenesis]

What accomplishments?

Destroying the GOP party in Mass?

Fleeing to La Jolla after imposing gay marriage,
socialized medicine, and the BIG-DIG failures?

Putting in liberal judges to release unrepentant murderers?

ROMNEY’s MOTIVES are SUSPECT and the POINT.

[dalereed]

Stick your socialist where the sun doesn’t shine!

[Diogenesis]

If Romney was not a poor sport and backstabber,
Romney would have SUPPORTED AND DEFENDED GOV. PALIN.

But it was not to be:

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"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"

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Similar to Romney's other scortched earth tactics:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson."

"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."
[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

[Lando Lincoln]

Thank you for posting. I, for one, can look at Mr. Romney’s suggestions regarding the economy with an open mind. In my view, he is more qualified to make those suggestions than many - maybe even most when compared to those we listen to each evening when we have our tv’s on. If he can advance the dialogue in a meaningful way, I am all for it. And that is what it is - a dialogue. We all want a fix for this mess we are in.

To dismiss his considered opinion based on emotionalism or his other unrelated policies/viewpoints is misguided. At least in my view.

[novemberslady]

I gave you an opening, and you are so defensive you wouldn't even try.

Instead of listing his accomplishments, any of them, you dodged the question.
Maybe you just couldn't answer it?

[meadsjn]

OK, I wasted the time and read Romney's 10-point plan. As I suspected, it contains the standard RINO Free Traitor talking points, some minor tax manipulations to favor a handful of favored slimeballs, some trade stuff to benefit a few favored slimeballs, and nothing of pro-American, small government, constitutional conservate principles.

Just more RINO, neo-con, Free Traitor sleaze.

[crunk]

LOL. So true. Sort of a reverse elitism thing. A cultural warfare that is patently unconservative and not something Reagan would have ever supported.