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From the column: The good news: When people understood his Mormon faith, the bias melted away.

Let me get this straight: The more people understand about Romney's Mormon faith, including his worldview that he either thinks he's a "god-in-embryo" (lds leader language) or will become an after-this-life "god," problems "melt away?" Really?

So if Americans had certain problems with Obama's old pastor, and aren't sure where Obama stands on those issues. But if Obama came right out & was up front with those -- plus told them he was either a "messiah-in-embryo" or will be a this-life or other-life Messiah -- all O probs would "melt away?"

From the column: "The good news is that accurate information about such unpopular religious groups can help the cause of religious tolerance in America."

(You know, I'd think I might settle for a "baby step" among Romney & his fellow Mormons if they'd stop calling 75% of his base as "apostates." Note: The official Lds teaching is that between the first and third centuries, the entire church of Jesus Christ supposedly apostatized -- and the generations that followed were in like camp. So much for "religious tolerance" when your average Mormon & Mormon politician believes Christians are "apostate," "corrupt" and 100% of their creeds are an "abomination" to their god...Those aren't my words; those are Joseph Smith's word now "sacerdotally" embedded with Lds "scripture")

I'm not exactly sure why this columnist expects a "kum-bah-ya" moment when Mitt, if he's true to the faith of his fathers, is no different than a Muslim who tells me as a Christian that I'm an "infidel."

From the column re: the Manhattan Declaration: ...the important new statement by Christian leaders suggests that Romney may face even greater religious resistance in 2012."

And Jim Robinson has stepped it up as well!

1 posted on 12/02/2009 6:13:29 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

IMO, this sidesteps a much more fundamental issue.

The man is a big government liberal. He should be disqualified as a head of state long before the subject of his religion can even be brought into the discussion.


2 posted on 12/02/2009 6:24:07 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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"Increased knowledge about Mormons and their faith helps remove stigma attached to them."

LOL!

3 posted on 12/02/2009 6:25:19 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Colofornian

From the column: The good news: When people understood his Mormon faith, the bias melted away.

Let me get this straight: The more people understand about Romney’s Mormon faith, including his worldview that he either thinks he’s a “god-in-embryo” (lds leader language) or will become an after-this-life “god,” problems “melt away?” Really?

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Only because the LDS PR machine is hiding what the LDS really believe, “milk before meat” and sadly, most Christians will go “oh, ok, I guess they really AREN’T all that different”.

It is only when you study their history and doctrines do you see things like godhood, the white horse prophecy, a desire to return to theocracy.

Another factor is the “i am going to prove I am not a bigot by voting for a minority” attitude. That tactic got the Obamanation votes.


5 posted on 12/02/2009 6:31:32 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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“In Romney’s case “our study suggests that Romney’s supporters would do well to encourage those who are troubled by his faith to become better informed about Mormonism.”

Oh my gosh! ... gasping for air, laughing!

It’s because people aren’t “informed” about mormonism!!!

Reporting for this mission, Sir!

In short, mormonism believes more bizarre things than any religion I know of, including scientology. There is, however, less couch jumping than scientology...


9 posted on 12/02/2009 6:39:04 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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“(Romney’s) candidacy, however, faces a major obstacle that should concern all Americans: religious intolerance. Mitt Romney’s membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka the Mormon church) clearly hurt him in 2008.
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Editor Nana to the rescue...

“(Romney’s) candidacy, however, faces a major obstacle that should concern all conservative Americans: political intolerance. Mitt Romney’s life long liberal stance on the issues that are important to conservatives clearly hurt him in 2008.

(Note to Joel: add the following)

“Romney was intolerant of the conservative base of the Republican party and their feelings about abortion, gay rights, the Second Amendment, big government, mandated universal health care, cap and trade, illegal aliens, the military, the war on terror, and the economy.”

There, Nana fixed it for you, Joel...

You’re good to go...

:)


11 posted on 12/02/2009 6:53:35 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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When people understood his Mormon faith, the bias melted away?

Shouldn’t that be more like “When people heard Mormons spin and obscure the truth about his Mormon faith, the bias melted away”?


15 posted on 12/02/2009 7:19:11 PM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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Romney's supporters would do well to encourage those who are troubled by his faith to become better informed about Mormonism. Such a discussion would likely help Romney

On what planet?

16 posted on 12/02/2009 7:19:38 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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May the big # 22 bestow on reid at the blackjack game of life!


19 posted on 12/02/2009 7:25:58 PM PST by shadowcat
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“In Romney’s case “our study suggests that Romney’s supporters would do well to encourage those who are troubled by his faith to become better informed about Mormonism.”

Be better informed about Mormonism, from former Mormons:
http://outofmormonism.libsyn.com/


20 posted on 12/02/2009 8:17:16 PM PST by Amerisrael
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When I learned about the Planet Kolob, all my bias just melted away, and chocolate rainbows appeared in the sky.


23 posted on 12/03/2009 3:17:44 AM PST by SkyPilot
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Most Mormons have long suspected what three political science professors have confirmed: Increased knowledge about Mormons and their faith helps remove stigma attached to them.

And yet SO many MORMONs on FR go absolutely BALLISTIC when Facts & History about their religious Organization come to light.

I guess that PROFESSORS know more than the mere rank&file types we get here.

25 posted on 12/03/2009 4:30:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Most Mormons have long suspected what three political science professors have confirmed: Increased knowledge about Mormons and their faith helps remove stigma attached to them.

(Emma to Joseph:)

"You tell me that you've taken yet another man's wife and I'LL remove the stigma that's attached to you!"

26 posted on 12/03/2009 4:32:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian; Jim Robinson
the important new statement by Christian leaders suggests that Romney may face even greater religious resistance in 2012.
And Jim Robinson has stepped it up as well!
I'm not sure that anything Jim said about Romney was "religious resistance" - except to the extent that his hostility to abortion is religiously motivated. But I don't consider that to be a prejudice but a judgement which has a rational basis.

32 posted on 12/03/2009 7:30:00 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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Let me get this straight: The more people understand about Romney's Mormon faith, including his worldview that he either thinks he's a "god-in-embryo" (lds leader language) or will become an after-this-life "god," problems "melt away?" Really?

Where is that statement in the article?

and LDS leader language?

You are intentionally distorting that article because that is your paraphasing.

Acts 3
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Rom. 8:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

The words Joint Heir and glorified are in Romans

Do you understand the scripture word glorified?

glorifyDefinition from Wiktionary, a free dictionaryJump to: navigation, search [edit] English[edit] VerbInfinitive to glorify

Third person singular glorifies or (archaic) glorifieth
Simple past glorified
Past participle glorified
Present participle glorifying

to glorify (third-person singular simple present glorifies or (archaic) glorifieth, present participle glorifying, simple past and past participle glorified)

(transitive) to exalt, or give glory or praise to (something or someone)

(transitive) to make (something) appear to be more glorious than it is

(transitive) to worship or extol

34 posted on 12/03/2009 10:36:06 AM PST by restornu (Learn of Him!)
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