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Environment Agency to propose individual carbon ration cards
BusinessGreen ^ | Nov 9, 2009 | Cath Everett

Posted on 11/30/2009 8:09:53 PM PST by thouworm

The Environment Agency will argue today that carbon rationing is the fairest and most effective way for the UK to meet its legally binding targets to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

The Agency’s chairman, Lord Smith, will propose at the organisation's annual conference in London that every citizen be provided with a "carbon account" and unique number that they submit when buying carbon-intensive items such as petrol, electricity or airline tickets.

Individuals would then periodically receive statements that show the carbon impact of each purchase and how much of their annual ration has been used up. If they exceeded this ration, they would need to buy extra credits from those people that have not used their full allowance, in a similar fashion to existing emission cap-and-trade schemes.

Lord Smith, former culture secretary under the Blair Government, is expected to say that carbon rationing will help citizens "judge how they want to develop their own quality of life in a sustainable way".

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The move is likely to reopen the debate over carbon rationing, which was shelved by the government last year despite a Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) feasibility study, which indicated that rationing was technically possible and had the "potential to engage individuals in taking action to combat climate change".

However, the study also concluded that the idea was "ahead of its time", would be expensive to implement, and was unlikely to secure widespread public support. As a result, the research programme was dropped, although Defra said it would continue to monitor third-party research and may still "introduce personal carbon trading if the value of carbon savings and cost implications change".

The House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee last year called on the government to resume its research in the area, however, and to be "courageous" in attempting to overcome likely public hostility to the concept.

It also concluded that: "Widespread public acceptance, while desirable, should not be a pre-condition for a personal carbon trading scheme. The need to reduce emissions is simply too urgent."


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KEYWORDS: capandtrade; capntrade; carbonallowance; carboncredits; carboncretins; carbonrationing; climatechange; climategate; copenhagen; globaltax; globalwarming; gordonbrown; gorebalism; hoaxes; insanity; liberalfascism; rationcard; rationing; redistribution; scams; tobintax; uk
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Speaking at the Environment Agency’s annual conference, [Chairman] Lord Smith said:

“We have to be realistic about Copenhagen. It won’t solve all the issues. We have therefore to see it as the crucial start to a process, not the end. We need an agreement of principles and commitments that will at least give us a chance of beating the worst that climate change will bring.

“I’d like cap and trade schemes adopted around the world. And part of the agreement at Copenhagen should be to take this approach, with further development by each continent.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/news/113108.aspx

Lord Smith's scheme was reported by both Mark Steyn and Charles Krauthammer.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Environmentalists are Gaia's priests, instructing us in her proper service and casting out those who refuse to genuflect. (See Newsweek above.) And having proclaimed the ultimate commandment -- carbon chastity -- they are preparing the supporting canonical legislation that will tell you how much you can travel, what kind of light you will read by, and at what temperature you may set your bedroom thermostat.

Only Monday, a British parliamentary committee proposed that every citizen be required to carry a carbon card that must be presented, under penalty of law, when buying gasoline, taking an airplane or using electricity. The card contains your yearly carbon ration to be drawn down with every purchase, every trip, every swipe.

There's no greater social power than the power to ration. And, other than rationing food, there is no greater instrument of social control than rationing energy, the currency of just about everything one does and uses in an advanced society.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/29/AR2008052903266.html

MARK STEYN

But no, it was systemic. Hysterical queens like Gordon Brown are demanding we introduce global taxation, micro-regulation of every aspect of your life, massive multi-trillion dollar transfers from the productive sector to eco-rackets and transnational bureaucracies, bovine flatulence levies and extraterrestrial surveillance of once sovereign states on the basis of fevered speculations for which there is no raw data:

No raw data, huh? But why let that stand in your way?

[quoting Krauthammer] "Only Monday, a British parliamentary committee proposed that every citizen be required to carry a carbon card that must be presented, under penalty of law, when buying gasoline, taking an airplane or using electricity. The card contains your yearly carbon ration to be drawn down with every purchase, every trip, every swipe."

But don't worry. It'll all be very scientific. Your carbon allowance numbers will be kept in a big database. Maybe in East Anglia?

(*Or, as Jim Treacher puts it, the science is settled ...at the bottom of the dumpster.)

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjZkM2I0MWNlMTYwNzUwNzAxOTQ0ZDAxN2ZlNzAzMjA=

1 posted on 11/30/2009 8:09:53 PM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

I wonder how many points they’d charge for burning the card.


2 posted on 11/30/2009 8:11:17 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: thouworm

Guess they didn’t get the memo.


3 posted on 11/30/2009 8:11:42 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: thouworm

Any move to implement this in the US should be met with armed resistance.


4 posted on 11/30/2009 8:12:27 PM PST by sand lake bar (Obama: Take away my 1st Amendment and you'll force me to use the 2nd.)
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To: sand lake bar

My tagline supports that notion.


5 posted on 11/30/2009 8:13:55 PM PST by Outland (Ping me when the revolution starts.)
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To: highlander_UW

I wonder how much carbon is going to be emitted, or however the hell it works, from all the cards being printed. I don’t understand how people can be so stupid.


6 posted on 11/30/2009 8:13:58 PM PST by Terry Mross (I voted for McCain and STILL wasted my vote.)
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To: thouworm

“Vapor Cards”

These people are certifiable.


7 posted on 11/30/2009 8:14:18 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: highlander_UW

lol; 10 points and a trip to the re-education camp.


8 posted on 11/30/2009 8:14:33 PM PST by thouworm
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To: unixfox

I looked for any recent statements on the email scandal from him. Crickets....

Facts and fraud be damned, it’s full speed ahead.


9 posted on 11/30/2009 8:16:39 PM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

There will be exclusions for those at the top. Count on it.


10 posted on 11/30/2009 8:16:44 PM PST by Redcitizen (Zartan for President 2012)
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To: thouworm

Not allowed to buy or sell without a special card/chip? Where have we heard this before? Looks like the climate change scam is the vehicle the globalists are going to use.


11 posted on 11/30/2009 8:17:45 PM PST by Fingolfin
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To: thouworm
"Widespread public acceptance, while desirable, should not be a pre-condition for a personal carbon trading scheme. The need to reduce emissions is simply too urgent."

You Brits gave away all your means to resist and now your goverment can impose any tyrannous outrage and your only option is how much you will smile as you placidly comply.

12 posted on 11/30/2009 8:21:20 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: sand lake bar

Since the scandal is being reported far more widely in the EU, one would hope that there are massive demonstrations in Copenhagen. Of course, even if there were, MSM would not report it.


13 posted on 11/30/2009 8:21:50 PM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Where are the soccer hooligans to round up these eco-fecal freaks and stomp the living crap out of them?? I can’t believe the Brits are bending over for this BS.


14 posted on 11/30/2009 8:22:50 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: thouworm

When Obama distributes those over here I am going to first piss on it and then stick it in the tailpipe of my two-stroke dirtbike. lol


15 posted on 11/30/2009 8:23:27 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: theBuckwheat

As the older Brits from WW2 would merrily comply....”Oh, well. Never mind. Come the better weather.”


16 posted on 11/30/2009 8:23:41 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Fingolfin

Krauthammer - post #1

“There’s no greater social power than the power to ration. And, other than rationing food, there is no greater instrument of social control than rationing energy, the currency of just about everything one does and uses in an advanced society.”


17 posted on 11/30/2009 8:24:04 PM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm; writer33; AT7Saluki
Environment Agency to propose individual carbon ration cards

I eat beans for my health. Will there be an exhaust tax on each can? (Oh, and you soy lubbers, watch out.)

18 posted on 11/30/2009 8:25:27 PM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: headstamp 2

The key to discrediting the US enviro-whackjobs with millions more Americans is to show their associations in ideas and Gaia ideology with their comrades in the UK. Even if this specific proposal is not being pushed (YET) in the US, it allows for strong counter-attacks on where the greenie Gorebots are trying to take this country.


19 posted on 11/30/2009 8:25:39 PM PST by Enchante (Obama to Jihad Terrorists: Come to NYC and Propagate Your Message - I Am Only Too Happy To Help You)
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To: thouworm

well I’m sure that Algore must have said by now that “global warming is the moral equivalent of WAR” or some such tripe......


20 posted on 11/30/2009 8:27:23 PM PST by Enchante (Obama to Jihad Terrorists: Come to NYC and Propagate Your Message - I Am Only Too Happy To Help You)
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