[ClearCase_guy]

Bump for later

[astyanax]

Thanks for posting.
bfl

[Petronski]

Ah yes, Woodrow Wilson: America's first fascist president, father of the global governance movement.

Chapter 3: Woodrow Wilson
and the Birth of Liberal Fascism

[Publius]

Thanks for posting this. It’s the best article I’ve read on this subject in years.

[nickcarraway]

Wilson getting the U.S. involved lead to all the wars after that and the leftism of the United States.

[Archon of the East]

But a central strand of modern liberalism was born of a sense of betrayal, of a rejection of progressivism, of a shift in sensibility so profound that it still resonates today.

Which is exactly why they are spiteful, vindictive and truly illiberal.

[VR-21]

Thanks from me too Neverdem. This one’s a keeper. You done good.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

into the 1950s, what oppressed the liberals became affluence, suburbia, two-car garages, and backyard barbecues.

Liberals LOVE choice...but they HATE what you choose, as much as any moralist hates the choice by others of drugs and prostitution. Liberals and most conservatives conspire in setting up the same means of coercion to defeat each other's choices.

[ModelBreaker]

The article would be more accurate if the bracketed materials were added: ““The root of liberalism,” wrote Stearns, “is hatred of compulsion [of liberals].”

[outofstyle]

This is a very interesting post. Human nature does not evolve. I found the following particularly enlightening:

Under the Sedition Act of 1918, people were sentenced to 10 years in prison for saying that they preferred the Kaiser to Wilson; others were jailed for mocking salesmen of Liberty Bonds, which supported the war effort. Most famously, socialist leader Debs was jailed for criticizing conscription.

Thus always with "progressives."

[Brugmansian]

The “Red Scare” was justified. Leon Czolgosz was inspired to murder President McKinley by one of those Palmer deported—Emma Goldman.We now know from the Soviet archives John Reed was one of five Americans who received over $1,000,000 from Lenin to foment a revolution in America . Big bucks at that time. Reed was stopped in Finland. The other money got here (and probably lots more, the Bolsheviks laundered the property they stole in, among other places, NYC). We know the code names of those involved but not their actual identities (a good guess however would be some of the founders of the ACLU which had been created as a reaction to the so-called “Red Scare).

[Ditto]

Literary critic Malcolm Cowley spoke for many intellectuals in the wake of the war: “We believed that we had fought for an empty cause, that the Germans were no worse than the Allies, no better, that the world consisted of fools and scoundrels.”

I agree. Europe was a mess then on all sides with even the British being only marginally more acceptable in terms of liberty than the Germans.

WWI was something that was was not worth the sacrifices the US made in getting involved. IMHO, the job of a president then should have been to finding a way to bring the opposing sides (other than the French, all blood related BTW) together to end the madness via some sort of face saving agreement, not to support one side over the other which we did de-facto if not via policy from the start.

Wilson did not show leadership there and WWII/the Cold War was the result.

Wildon was Jimmy Carter the First --- full of 'good intentions' that all turned into disasters.

[tanuki]

How true. First the utopians say they love their society, but want to change it. Then, when it doesn’t change, or change to their liking, they turn against it. Then, when it reacts to them, or worse, ignores them, they become its victims. All the while, they insist on living in it and enjoying its benefits as a birthright. Ultimately, it’s all about them and only about them.

[lentulusgracchus]

Well. Isn't that just special? Liberalism oppressed by affluence and the achievement of a consumer economy.

Sounds like a thundering shortage of humility to me, among these contemptuous, self-consequent, Red-coddling little prigs.

[geologist]

Interesting read ... actually one to read again with time for consideration of the opposing positions and the changing of America and all the pressures it was experiencing ... thoughtfully.

We live in a time of instant responses, quick judgments, multitasking, entertaining ourselves, and living as if ... it was all about our self individually.

We have/had a nation of laws based on sound everlasting principles ... Christian in character. We have allowed and are allowing erosion, twisting, and disdain for these principles to crumble away, the ground our nation stands upon ...

THINK.

Those that do not know their history, and learn from their history are bound to repeat it.

Anyone listening?

Do you really want oppression on our every move, thought, exercise of freedom, speaking without fear?

[Skooz]

bfl

[Crolis]

Thank you, this was very interesting.

[1010RD]

Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals.

This is anti-Americanism.