Posted on 11/24/2009 9:05:51 AM PST by dalight
Great article. I like Sarah Palin more and more all the time :)
Palin - business experience and Governor of Alaska. Olympic Organizer is an honorable job (as I've seen it first hand with Billy Payne in Atlanta), but hardly comparable to being a Governor or a mayor.
Giuliani - mayor of NYC, which is probably a bit more challenging than being governor of Alaska.
Palin - city council member AND a mayor. I doubt very seriously that mayor of NYC is more challenging than being a Governor of any state seeing that cities are governed by the laws of the state. Besides that fundamental mayoral duties are the same no matter the size or importace of the city.
Guiliani's 2001 budget was $41 billion.
Palin's first year Alaska budget - $68 billion.
Was Guiliani CIC of a military force? Sarah Palin was.
Would you be happier if I wrote national “exposure” rather than “experience”?
Palin is getting the national AND global exposure she needs right now. She'll have it in spades very soon. Also recall that Palin had a good deal of international experience directly with the governments of Canada, Russia, and the UK.
Let’s be careful not to define anybody to our left as a RINO.
Feh! Guiliani and Romney are both socialist light RINOs. They are to the left of Bush who could never be called a Laissez Faire Capitalist by any stretch of the imagination. I'll choose a freedom loving Capitalist any day over the slave master socialists.
Be reminded that Palin has the EXPERIENCE of being on the ticket of a Presidential Campaign. Neither of Guiliani nor Romney have that.
This might be of limited wisdom, but it isn't likely anyone is going to buy the RINO is best argument that the Washington insiders have been pushing. It is wrong and wrong headed.. if you want a Democrat elect one.. The Blue Dogs despite their flaws are needed. We should keep a number of them and go hunting for the ultra-liberals and Democrat moderates so that we can create working super majorities without going from one form of party domination to another.
The best world would be a Republican majority and a sizable Blue Dog Democrat minority who suck but not as much as Nancy.
But, even that isn't completely likely, so we go after every seat and let the coins fall where they may.
McCain gave us one gift, Sarah. His campaign was not interested in winning and anyone who hires certain of his staffers is insane. We knew they were a problem from the get go.. but the lets go to the middle crowd said.. ooh.. they won't be stupid. But, they were. Read the LA Times making fun of them during the 2008 Campaign for their "Contain Sarah" strategy. They did a post mortum of this recently and declared the crew that accomplished this one of the biggest causes of McCain's defeat.
Steve Schmidt is not our friend and he has proven it over and over. Well, move on.
In reality, watch Huck responding to some questions asked him by Bill O'Reilly recently about Sarah. How is he going to campaign against her? Sarah is proving her chops right now. She will fall or rise further by doing what she plans for 2010. She is focused on that because 2012 will handle itself if 2010 is handled right.
Forget worrying about 2012. We have to win 2010. That is everything.
“Slick Willard ain’t “our own.””
Word up.
I used to think McLame was appreciably worse than Romney. But I wasn’t using my noggin I was using my ears listening to how other people were saying that.
I’d practically prefer Rudy to Myth. At least he cleaned up the crime in NY more than any previous Mayor had done and more than ‘Individual Mandate’ Romney did right in office. The difference between them is that Romney told bigger lies to primary electorate about how much he’s moved to the right since ‘94 he was trying to run to Ted Kennedy’s left on gays.
Republican base voters hated McLame and Romney got whipped even by him.
As to him having “experience”. That’s his spin. The media may buy it, I don’t.
He spent 4 years as Governor of a fairly large state. He was terrible at it. Then he bailed. ( and I don’t care if he ‘saved’ the Olympics),
Palin spent 2+ years as Governor of a small (people wise) state. She did well. Prior to that she served on an oil commission and as Mayor of a small town.
I prefer her experience. He has 2 more years in high office, big deal. Especially since he was bad at it. It was nothing but a stepping stone/resume line for him. Palin cares about her state.
I would like to use RICO laws to outlaw the dems.
But there existence is useful because Republicans would be very corrupt in a one-party state where they never lost no matter how badly they did.
Many rats who voted against the health care bill would have voted with Pelosi if there votes were needed. It’s called “catch and release”.
RE :”But there existence is useful because Republicans would be very corrupt in a one-party state where they never lost no matter how badly they did.”
We know what happens when Republicans are in power too long.
Is everyone here incapable of reading? I am not pushing Romney nor Giuliani (jeez, I can’t even spell his name).
My argument is simply that after Obama’s incompetence, experience is going to be important in the 2012 election. If you want to argue that Ms Palin has good credentials in this respect, go ahead, but it will be a hard sell.
I don’t know who is going to be the Republican nominee. I put forth Romney and Guiliani as having superior credentials in the area of experience. Reasonable people can differ, and, frankly, I am rather amazed by the vituperation to which I have been subjected.
If you follow this thread, you will find that I have not espoused the candidacies of either Romney or Guiliani. I have never had much use for Romney and find Rudy to be more socially liberal than I would like.
The nominee could well be someone else - a certain four-star general comes to mind.
I share an enthusiasm for Ms Palin with many of the other posters in this thread. As I indicated earlier in this thread, I contributed money to the RNC for the first time in about twenty years because of her inclusion on the 2008 Republican ticket. I think that she was subjected to unfair attacks during the campaign and that her credentials with respect to competence and experience were superior to that of both members of the Democratic ticket.
But, believe it or not, there are voters out there who don’t share our intense interest in these matters. Their concern is going to be competence and experience. Whether it is fair or not, Ms Palin is going to have problems in this respect.
And can someone please enlighten me as to who “Slick Willard” is?
The good news is that the Democrats are particularly thin on the experience/competence angle. Just compare the leading Democratic candidates in 2008 - Obama, Clinton, Biden, and Edwards (not a single serious individual among them) to the leading Republican candidates - McCain, Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson (all of whom have substantive accomplishments to their credits).
Exactly!
This is why we need to just go at anything that is vulnerable. Still, we can live with DINO's that help every once in a while but who we know we can't count on for something that is on the margin.
I am just saying if we cut the Dems back to only the loons.. that is what the opposition will be... loons.
Mitt Romney got a "C" rating from CATO.
And that was BEFORE Romney's failure re: Socialized medicine.
"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace."
conclusion: Romney is a PROVEN economic failure
Mitt never had that basic training. Too beneath a Mormon Royal, and Harvard Lawyer.
Mitts credentials.
Mormon Royalty.
Sheltered life.
Not one Romney has ever served in the military since they came to America before the Civil War. WTF? You know, the Mitt statement that his sons working handing our bumper stickers was the same as being in Iraq.
Harvard Lawyer. Do we really need another lawyer, let alone Harvard?
One, basically half term, whipped, stopped do nothing term of a socialists state, leaving the party in near extinction.
Do we need another over educated, mealy mouth, flip flopping, plastic, fake RINO?
I wouldn’t wish Mitt on Democrats.
Thank you. This was an interesting article. I just bought Governor Palin’s book yesterday and look to start reading it over the holiday weekend.
I don't recall accusing you of that specifically bagman. But you seem to proffering that they are acceptable candidates though you don't prefer them. Correct me if I'm wrong. I submit either would likely be a disaster as a candidate (more so Rudy, social conservatives might stay home) and likely a disaster in office (more so Mitt, just like he was as governor). I don't think Rudy is running, he's looking at the NY statewide races and may not run for anything at all. Mitt is gonna run and conservatives ought to work hard to stop him from getting the nod. He should not be enabled be labeled as a highly qualified candidate.
(jeez, I can’t even spell his name).
Me neither. Hence I just call him Rudy. And I call that guy in Cali, Arnold. ;)
Palin is not the most experienced gal for the job in terms of time in high office or foreign policy expertise, that's true. But neither is she unqualified like the lying media says. And she has a lot of positives that other candidates lack. A lot of people buy whatever the media sells and as you implied are not close to a fraction as politically intelligent or interested as you or I so this is a problem for her of course. One major component of Johnson's victory over Goldwater was a highly successful character assassination. It's harder to do that today but still easy as the MSM usually sets the narrative. However a good thing about Palin is her the ability to connect with voters who might not know good policy from their rear end. If their ears are open.
In the facts based universe I live in that the media ignores she is undeniably more qualified than Obama.
And I submit Romney as well. He has 2 years on her as Governor. Big deal. She did a pretty good job in 2 years, he was awful in 4. She has much more governmental experience than him though at at often disdained local level in a small state. His business and Olympic experience (some say he did bad with the Olympics others say he "saved" them) mean next to nothing to me, they have little to do with being President. Being a Governor does and he sucked at it. I actually voted for him over McCain in the primary cause I thought McCain was worse. I regret it now, they are both RINOs.
In terms of experience Rudy takes the cake between the 3. His city is bigger than the state Romney misgoverned and he has the definite edge in terrorism experience. But Rudy is more like a Wendell Willkie/Al Smith type, a non-marxist 'liberal' if you will (of which few specimens exist in modern times) than a conservative. He should not be President. If in runs for Governor or Senator in NY I'll support him.
And can someone please enlighten me as to who “Slick Willard” is?
Romney. Willard is his first name. He goes by his middle name Mitt. My uncle who donated to Romney also goes by his middle name though of course I doubt that has anything to do with his donation. Anyhow it's a play on Slick Willy (Clinton) which I would guess was heavily influenced by Tricky Dick (Nixon) which Dick's 1950 Senate opponent called him after he dubbed her "the pink (as in pinko, socialist) lady". So if Nixon didn't ever call her that maybe Slick Willard never would have been coined. We who don't like Romney also call him "Myth", a play on Mitt that references how it's a myth that's either conservative or qualified.
We need a candidate that is not a Rudy McRombee (you can guess what that means ;) )
You did say Romney is "one of our own". That's the thing you said that I take umbrage with. If "our own" means "person running for office as a Republican" then I do think we should "eat" him and other even worse RINO losers like that Dede Scuzzobama in NY (hate her name too) and spit them out in a medical waste bin. They don't help us, they hurt us.
Anyhow you are welcome to your views.
Bagman, I find it singularly curious someone who has an account dating from May 2000 that would need to ask that question on Free Republic. Where were you during the entirety of the 2008 Presidential election (from 2007-2009) ? Unless you were living on Mars, you'd certainly know the answer, and you'd also know this website's and JimRob's prevailing conclusion on this individual.
Maybe an investigation is in order.
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