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In the trenches on climate change, hostility among foes (and the Global Warming fraud is exposed)
Washington Post ^ | 11/21/2009 | Juliet Eilperin

Posted on 11/21/2009 7:02:01 PM PST by tobyhill

Electronic files that were stolen from a prominent climate research center and made public last week provide a rare glimpse into the behind-the-scenes battle to shape the public perception of global warming.

While few U.S. politicians bother to question whether humans are changing the world's climate -- nearly three years ago the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded the evidence was unequivocal -- public debate over the debate persists. And the newly disclosed private exchanges among climate scientists at Britain's Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia reveal an intellectual circle that appears to feel very much under attack, and eager to punish its enemies.

In one e-mail, the center's director, Phil Jones, writes Pennsylvania State University's Michael E. Mann and questions whether the work of academics that question the link between human activities and global warming deserve to make it into the prestigious IPCC report, which represents the global consensus view on climate science.

"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hadleycru; warming
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1 posted on 11/21/2009 7:02:03 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

The guys were exactly as i knew they were. A bunch of liars who are only interested in advancing an agenda.


2 posted on 11/21/2009 7:05:06 PM PST by Always Right
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To: tobyhill
 Climate Change
3 posted on 11/21/2009 7:07:20 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: tobyhill; Defendingliberty; Genesis defender; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ...
 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 11/21/2009 7:07:34 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: tobyhill

>> nearly three years ago the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded the evidence was unequivocal

... and this conclusion rested on the shaky foundation of academic fraud uncovered in the leaked emails and data.

But of course the WaPo won’t tell you that.


5 posted on 11/21/2009 7:07:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Always Right
The guys were exactly as i knew they were

"The climate fraudsters are who we thought they were. And we let 'em off the hook".

6 posted on 11/21/2009 7:08:21 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Always Right

>> A bunch of liars who are only interested in advancing an agenda.

Their grants and consulting contracts — therefore, their livelihoods — were hitched to that agenda.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 7:09:46 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: tobyhill

Full bore group-think. How far science has fallen in this age of political agendas.

Science will never recover from this outright bastardization from the left. They corrupt everything they touch.


8 posted on 11/21/2009 7:10:51 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: tobyhill
"...files that were stolen surreptitiously copied, in the finest journalistic tradition,..."

There, that's better.

9 posted on 11/21/2009 7:11:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

Talk about Unethical, unprincipled propagandist.


10 posted on 11/21/2009 7:12:01 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62

It’s funny because these frauds have been exposed and yet they’re still defending their fraud as having some validity to it.


11 posted on 11/21/2009 7:13:56 PM PST by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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"Mann, who directs Penn State's Earth System Science Center, said the e-mails reflected the sort of "vigorous debate" researchers engage in before reaching scientific conclusions"

Hey Michael, you of the now discredited "hockey stick" fame, if the issue is settled, and consensus is reached, why is this "vigorous debate" still going on?

12 posted on 11/21/2009 7:14:56 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (The trouble liberals isn't that they are ignorant; it is that they know so much that isn't so.)
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To: tobyhill

Ping for later. The current line is that the university can not vouch for the accuracy of the stolen emails. The MSM is going to run with this.

Compare with The Pentagon Papers. Did anyone ever get away with claiming that since they were stolen they might not be authentic. No. It would have been a pathetically stupid claim, and the media would have ridiculed it.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot the absurd is given full creedence.

Sickening.


13 posted on 11/21/2009 7:18:03 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: tobyhill

It seems the hacked material is considered legitimate, which was probably the first hurdle to get over. Rush mentioned this Friday, but tread lightly around it because the information was so new. I expect he and his global warming consultants will have lot to say about it this coming week.


14 posted on 11/21/2009 7:18:03 PM PST by Will88
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To: tobyhill

Sort of like Dan Rather, don’t you think?


15 posted on 11/21/2009 7:18:54 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: tobyhill

environmentalism (global warming), racism and feminism are all lies...they are all just tools to advance liberalism

...china and india are laughing their asses off as they take more jobs from the west, as we strangle our businesses...gee, do you think china and india will fall for these enviro constraints, carbon credits, etc???

...it really is quite astounding that al gore went on the conan obrien show and said that “the center of the earth is extremely hot...several million degrees”...when the actual temperature is 5000-7000 degrees celsius...what a fool!

...what’s even more astounding is that he won two oscars and a nobel prize for his global warming “work”...but then again those two organizations are run by liberals FOR liberals...how else could any reasonable person explain obama, gore and arafat winning nobel prizes, yet not awarding one to reagen who liberated 500 million people from behind the iron curtain


16 posted on 11/21/2009 7:21:54 PM PST by profit_guy
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To: Nervous Tick

The WP story did overlook the obvious.


17 posted on 11/21/2009 7:29:01 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Always Right

“A bunch of liars who are only interested in advancing an agenda.”

You forgot to cite the key issue: Research on the agenda is worth mucho dinero in funding.


18 posted on 11/21/2009 7:29:42 PM PST by Rembrandt
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To: headstamp 2

This all sounds like a weak, unbelievable plot for a SyFy made-for-tv or straight-to-DVD movie.


19 posted on 11/21/2009 7:31:42 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: tobyhill
I just got back from Barnes & Noble. Just skimming the front tables of books (Sarah's was there!!!!!!) on the way to the computer books. One caught my eye 'Denialism' by some idiot Michael Spector. I rather loudly commented to my 8-year-old son about this guy being an idiot and when he asked why, I rather verbosely explained why the guy was such an idiot denying what the hackers just brought out about global warming being a scam. He's the denier writing about the pseudo-deniers. I could only stomach parsing through a quick few paragraphs. What a puke.
20 posted on 11/21/2009 7:33:36 PM PST by time4good
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