Posted on 11/21/2009 4:01:45 PM PST by rmlew
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When 79% of American Jews vote for 0bama, what do you expect?
I don’t remember you being very friendly toward Jews, but as another poster/replier said, so many of our tribe voted for “the Messiah.” How could they not know what kind of person he is?
I’m sick of these JINO self hating Marxist vermin running these idiotic jewish organizations. Its time we get together and counter these @#$$%%^. We should start a Jewish chapter for freepers and counter these bums with press releases every time they open their filthy mouths criticizing conservatives (who support Israel) and side with liberals like Osama who bans Jews from living in Israel.
My co-religionists in Manhattan are simply cringe-inducing.
Where do I sign up?
Sad. Even sadder when Abe Foxman of the ADL attacks Geert Wilders of Holland. Geert has great backers like Savage, Pam Yellen at Atlas and Joyce Kaufman.
Great “supporters” instead of “backers.”
I’m completely befuddled by the Jewish religion.
Jews in America vote overwhelmingly for socialists, communists and fascists.
And that’s after Moses took them out for a hike for 40 years to clear their heads.
If Moses can’t get their heads straight, what can we do?
Just asking...
Thanks for a good post. Glick is great at all times, and this article is no exception.
It’s a religious thing. Secular leftist Jews were disproportionately represented within the Bolsheviks and carried a hostility towards traditional Jewish culture that they acted on once in power.
You have assumed, incorrectly, that Jews have not changed sine the time G-d took them out of Egypt. You look at them now and assume they've always been like that. It's like me looking at you as you are getting out of bed on a dark wintry morning and deciding that you are always sleepy.
In the last two millennia, Jews of Europe were far from "progressive:" they belonged, in fact, to the conservative element of society. Religion and traditions is what kept them alive.
Significant changes came about in and after the Enlightenment. As many other Europeans --- Catholics and Protestants of various denominations --- Jews started to drift away from religion. Discrimination did not help, naturally; a cornered person becomes desperate. Having arrived in France before the Franks, Jews lacked citisenship there until 1781. Germany granted citizenship to them in 1869, i.e., very recently. It was actually the Left that advocated equal rights for the Jews. As a consequence, many Jews identified them as friends and viewed the Church with distrust. The promise of equal rights enthused many Russian Jews to embrace the communist revolution.
While none of this was happening here, Jews immigrating en masse at the turn of XX century brought with them ages-old apprehensions and continued to identify with liberal causes. That's what we see today.
The point is, the left leanings of the Jews are quite recent. They undergo the same vicissitudes as all other religions. What Leftist cause has Anglican Church failed to support recently, for example?
Thanks for your explanation. I just figured that with a big and influential guy like Moses leading you out of the wilderness, you’d come out of the desert with some semblance of common sense.
Then again, you hit the bullseye. Roman Catholics voted in the majority for king obuma. Explain that, sergeantdave!!!
Good grief!!
Anyway, that’s why I asked. I don’t understand liberal jews. Nor do I understand liberal Catholics.
Touche.
Maybe if we run both Jews and Catholics through Marine boot camp we might get different voting patterns, yes?
We can wish...
I am shocked and heartbroken to learn what has taken place at UC Berkeley's Hillel Center. When I was a student there in the sixties, the Hillel Center was my refuge and I participated in many acivities there. We always had a community Seder there. Rabbi Balanoff was our leader and he was a great Rabbi who built the Hillel Center to be a thriving institution. Now from this article by Caroline Glick, I learn for the first time, how it has changed and it comes as a shock. I had over the years thought that if I were ever able to visit the campus again the first place I would want to go would be the Hillel House. Now I would not want to visit. How could this generation of Jews turn out to be such fools?
American Jews on the whole are simply interested in furthering the interest of the democrat party. They don’t give two s***s about Israel.
Oh sh.. (read without the ellipses)! I got you confused with someone else. I am very very sorry :(
I am 100% convinced that you are correct here.
I am sorry to add to Glick's article that, although Berkeley tends to be to the left at any given time, there is nothing unusual about that Hillel. In fact, since earlier years of this decade, whenever I visit a university, I always ask friends about their Hillel. It seems to be the same story: the liberal bend accelerated in mid-1990s (just as the in the rest of the academia), and since about 2004-2005 included active abandonment of Israel. A friend who teaches at Dartmouth tried to counter it there for a while but, I think, not much came out of that. It's a really sad situation.
"How could this generation of Jews turn out to be such fools?"
Well, whene disappointed with a kid, look at the parents, It is the parents of the present-day students that continue to send their alumni contributions although they know full well by now that universities teach PC rather than age-old wisdom and instill obedience rather than develop ability to think. They look the other way. It is not the kids but your friends and mine that make this possible. Do you really think that those that hold the purse strings could not change the situation in a heartbeat? And what about Jewish professors? They are older, they have weight on campus, they could do a thing or two. But most of them have not much connection with Jewishness (aside from the love of lox) and a great deal of connection with leftist ideology. With a few exceptions (such as my friend I mentioned earlier), they actually push Hillels toward all things PC.
So, my friend, it is not "this generation" of kids --- it is your generation and mine. We've met the enemy... and it is us.
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