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"California Tax Gimmick is Theft"
Hogue News ^ | November 11, 2009 | Nick Kump

Posted on 11/18/2009 10:33:24 PM PST by hoguenews

So it might be the cynic in me or call me crazy for not trusting the government, but I cannot believe that there was not more attention paid to the state’s latest accounting gimmick to save the state’s budget.

Starting Sunday you may notice a few less dollars in each paycheck, 10 percent less to be specific. While the state says that the money will be returned in April, something does not sit right with me when the government helps itself to even more of my paycheck especially when so many people are already living paycheck to paycheck.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; blogpimp; california; californiademocrats; incometax; sacramento; taxes

1 posted on 11/18/2009 10:33:25 PM PST by hoguenews
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To: hoguenews

The entire state Gov’t are theives, along with the Unions, excessive pensions, teachers, blah blah blah.. I can’t think of a better (and more bankrupt) state for Obama to model our Federal Gov’t’s spending after. Can you say, “Cloward and Piven”?


2 posted on 11/18/2009 10:36:43 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: hoguenews

I believe they are going to withold 10% more than current, not 10% of wages. I sure hope I’m right. In either case, it’s still robbery.


3 posted on 11/18/2009 10:45:51 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: umgud

You are correct. An additional 10% of what is currently the STATES WITHHOLDING.


4 posted on 11/18/2009 10:48:28 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: hoguenews
I gather this chicanery was signed by the governor back in July or so (AB17 and AB18 trailers to the budget), but is unilaterally deciding to over-withhold California taxpayers legal?
5 posted on 11/18/2009 10:53:16 PM PST by RhoTheta (Wipe out capitalism, no more money. You following me camera guy?)
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To: hoguenews

So UP your dependents. Currently claiming four? Up it to six. Be smarter than the gubmint.


6 posted on 11/18/2009 10:55:17 PM PST by BigFinn (Isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: historyrepeatz

That is still a lot of money when considering 10% of all the state’s witholding.


7 posted on 11/18/2009 11:00:03 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: historyrepeatz

Thank God for states. As this one tries desperately to fund it’s public sector parasitism at the Gold Club level, it’s collapse remains imminent. A poor example of ‘self government’, but a wonderful example of that which Obama should avoid- were he paying attention. But he ain’t.


8 posted on 11/18/2009 11:04:13 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska.)
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To: hoguenews
Welcome to the Federal District of California. Bailouts with strings; abolition of the state constitution; assumption of all state employees and pensions into the Federal Government and national unions.....etc, etc.

The first domino. 56 to go....

9 posted on 11/18/2009 11:34:06 PM PST by dasboot
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To: All

I think that anyone in CA who can should get out now. Soon the hogs at the trough (state and local government employees, teachers, etc.) will find themselves with no one to tax to support their outlandish pensions, pay and benefits but themselves, and the whole house of cards will collapse.


10 posted on 11/19/2009 2:46:56 AM PST by Spartan79
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To: BigFinn
So UP your dependents. Currently claiming four? Up it to six. Be smarter than the gubmint.

Agreed. Do whatever it takes to deprive the beast of oxygen. It may come due again later, but better that you should have it now than the fascist state.

11 posted on 11/19/2009 4:30:42 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: hoguenews

” . . . the state says that the money will be returned in April, . . .”

But will they be IOU’s.

I heard that you can’t pay new taxes with IOU’s. Is that true?


12 posted on 11/19/2009 7:27:43 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: CriticalJ

...I heard that you can’t pay new taxes with IOU’s. Is that true?...

Yep, quite true.


13 posted on 11/19/2009 8:29:48 PM PST by oldteen
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To: oldteen

The IOU’s are bad enough, but the fact that you can use the IOU’s to settle difference from the issuer of the IOU is insane. How can they even begin to justify that? Any legal challenges to it?


14 posted on 11/20/2009 5:41:56 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: CriticalJ

...Any legal challenges to it?...

None that I have heard about.


15 posted on 11/20/2009 7:03:16 PM PST by oldteen
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To: CriticalJ

I just did a search and there is a law firm that filed a class action suit but evidently nothing has come of it yet.


16 posted on 11/20/2009 7:08:00 PM PST by oldteen
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To: hoguenews

Won’t people just revise their W2s, reducing withholding to make up for Caleefornia’s thuggery?
LOL, won’t it be funny when the money “returned in April” is in the form of state IOUs?


17 posted on 11/20/2009 7:11:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“Won’t people just revise their W2s, reducing withholding to make up for Caleefornia’s thuggery?”

I was thinking the same thing when I first heard about the increase?


18 posted on 11/20/2009 7:18:35 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: oldteen

Thanks for the update. Hopefully the class action will get some traction. It sounds like the gov’t in CA is out of control in respect to other people’s money.


19 posted on 11/20/2009 7:19:33 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: CriticalJ

This was not the first time the state has done this. It happened in 1992 as well. My hubby worked for the state at that time and was paid once a month. The first month the bank was more than happy to take it. The second month, not so much. Workers had to wait until they passed a budget to even cash it. Luckily, I worked (not for the state thank goodness) so we weren’t as affected as some.


20 posted on 11/20/2009 9:07:55 PM PST by oldteen
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