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Condemned to an early death:
www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 19th November 2009 | By JENNY HOPE

Posted on 11/18/2009 6:22:37 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U

Condemned to an early death: Rationing body tells liver cancer victims that life-prolonging drug is 'too costly'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229090/Condemned-early-death-Rationing-body-tells-liver-cancer-victims-life-prolonging-drug-costly.html

Liver cancer sufferers are being condemned to an early death by being denied a new drug on the Health Service, campaigners warn. They criticised draft guidance that will effectively ban the drug sorafenib - which is routinely used in every other country where it is licensed. Trials show the drug, which costs £36,000 a year, can increase survival by around six months for patients who have run out of options.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; healthcare; livercancer; missinglink; rationedcare; sorafenib; truncatedtitle
Yet another look into the future
1 posted on 11/18/2009 6:22:37 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Trials show the drug, which costs £36,000 a year, can increase survival by around six months for patients who have run out of options.

so at most it's six months for $18000 and usually less. so their life isn't worth even $18000 to the state

2 posted on 11/18/2009 6:33:15 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Hmmm. From familial experience, liver cancer has one of the the most grim prognosis of any cancer. It's also one of the nastiest ways to go, as it really rips you apart. Psychosis, jaundice (as you would expect), significant pain and debilitation and, if memory serves, one of the lowest chances of cure. It really is a very bad way to go.

Perhaps the only blessing is that the length of suffering is relatively short. I would be interested to see if the drug actually adds significantly to your life expectancy after your options run out, compared to letting the disease take its course. Saying that you get six months with the drug, does not mean you get six additional months that you wouldn't have had otherwise. When my family dealt with this, we were told that the average time from diagnosis to death was six months. The literature backed it up as well. Perhaps the time to death is greater now, but I would be surprised if it was.

3 posted on 11/18/2009 7:03:59 PM PST by Habibi
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Just how much do you expect the TAXPAYER to pay to give you a few more months of terrible pain and CONTINUED expensive medical treatment?

The cost of the drug itself is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.


4 posted on 11/18/2009 7:16:56 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Habibi

My uncle died of liver cancer two years ago. Time from diagnosis to death was 4 1/2 months. His insurance company refused to pay for some drug the doctor said he could try (maybe this one because it was supposed to be about 3000/month). They told him he would have to pay for it himself. The doctor said it might give him an extra month or so, so he didn’t want to put his family through the expense.


5 posted on 11/18/2009 7:24:39 PM PST by AUH2O Repub ( SPalin/Hunter 2012)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

As an oncologist, the cost vs benefit ratio for some of these new drugs isn’t favorable. Some of them have response rates of 10% with the cost of thousands of dollars per month. At some point it’s of very questionable benefit. If people want to explore every possible avenue for treatment, they should pay for it out of pocket. Cold, but true.


6 posted on 11/18/2009 8:09:34 PM PST by Gapplega (j)
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To: AUH2O Repub; Gapplega; clee1

How many people would actually choose to spend $18,000 of their *own* money to extend their lives by 6 months (and probably with very low quality of life), rather than leave the $18,000 to their children, spouse, or charity? It makes no sense to expect public health programs or private insurance programs to shell out colossal amounts of money for brief extensions of the lives of terminally ill patients, when most people wouldn’t want to spend their own hard-earned money that way. And of course the cost of the drug is just the beginning, as there will be other medical expenses during those 6 months, and rarely any economic productivity from the patient.


7 posted on 11/18/2009 9:26:30 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Exactly my point.

If folks want to pay for every possible life-extending treatment, regardless of cost, outcome, or benefit; then fine... they can do that.

But, people really shouldn’t expect complete strangers to value THEIR lives so much that we are willing to pay any price to give them a few more months.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 10:25:41 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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