Posted on 11/16/2009 11:36:23 AM PST by mojito
That's the current Obama-administration message.
I suppose that in World War II or Korea, the U.S. could have captured non-uniformed infiltrators, shipped them to a POW camp, dithered over how to handle them, and then sent them back to the U.S. for civilian trials, as if they were U.S. citizens, with full legal rights, facing criminal charges of the sort brought against Americans. But with the upcoming terrorist trials in New York, we have crossed the Rubicon, and lots of eerie questions will arise. Can those attacked or wounded by Predator drones sue in U.S. courts for America's judge/jury/executioner treatment of them? The next time we catch a terrorist blowing up a building in Kabul, should we read him his Miranda rights, videotape his testimony, offer him a lawyer, and send him to the U.S.? Or should we wink and nod and turn him over to the Afghans, with the understanding that our post-modern justice system is so absurd that we would rather informally rely on others' pre-modern way of doing business? (Is that why Obama kept renditions — because the more we become utopian and loudly perfectionist, the more we will need others to do our dirty work?)
Why the assumption that KSM and others will be found guilty? What if one or two sympathetic souls on the jury nullify (as in the O.J. Simpson case) the evidence?
(Excerpt) Read more at corner.nationalreview.com ...
Links don’t work for me.
They want their brothers to go free.
In 1942, eight Nazi sabotuers were captured landing on Long Island. Even though two were American citizens and others lived in the US before the war, they were tried by a secret military tribunal. Most were executed in a timely fashion.
It’s the correct link, but NRO seems to be having some website problems at the moment.
Probably....and he is again apologizing for causing KSM and his Muslim ilk to destroy the Twin Towers.....is again apologizing for America by letting his Attorney General Holder bring the man who in an Act of War masterminded the demise of the Twin Towers....bring that man to be tried for his Act Of War to the United States to be tried in a civil court for the lessor count of... jay-walking.......?
This Muslim defendant will walk after being tried by a jury of his peers...he gets all Constitutional Rights....the trial is about Islam and how to protect it.....Obama is or was a Muslim, raised in the Islamic faith....they will also take your guns along the way as Marxist do....Obama is protecting Islam not America or Americans which he swore to do. Impeach the man!
I, as 40-something year old remember when we were hands down the most awesome thing this planet has ever experienced in terms of liberty, freedom, and a small government.
Now kids today are taught only the negatives.
Lunar landing? Skylab? The telephone? No, the most important thing the kids learn about today is the 400 years of oppression at the hands of the evil white slave owner.
THX! I went to VDH’s web site and got the article. Well worth reading...sad but true.
Actually, he probably kept rendition open as a policy for future use on us.......
The two things that make the U.S President exceptional are the powers of the Veto and the Commander in Chief. As the executive powers are usurped by a resurgent Congress and diffused by a myriad czars, the President becomes a ceremonial figure the Congress envoys to funerals of other heads of state. Remember Congress certifies the President. In effect in the Constitution the President is a ‘creature’ of Congress. The only other exceptional power is Commander in Chief which in the current climate is exercised only in the breach and in grave danger of atrophy. Result: the President of Austria. Q.O.D.
I think future generations of Americans (if it still exists) will YEARN for “mediocrity”. That will be far better than what will be in place.....
No need to pretend they have citizenship rights. They are merely war criminals if proven so.
Actually wasn't it a tawdry little necktie party real late in the war that nobody wanted to own except the buck stopped on Trumans desk. Check the History Channel.
It is an interesting observation, the one that shows Obama acting as if he’s the one, and our nation in his opinion number two.
Personally, I’ve thought he was a stupid number two for some time now.
I know it sounds crazy, but worst case scenario, I plan on taking up arms along with thousands of my countrymen to prevent this downward slide.
How it's going to manifest itself is not yet ordained, but there is a storm a'brewin' in America, and when it is over I want to say I was a force for good. Many years from now when I am dead and gone I want my grandchildren to know I did not go quietly into that goodnight, but rather that I fought for them and their progeny.
The OJ jury was agreed on acquittal before the trial started. That trial was won when Johnny Cochran got the change of venue.
Second, I'm expecting the lawyers for the 9/11 master minds to immediately request a change of venue to someplace like Dearborn, and then try to pack the jury with Muslims.
Not very far.
It doesn’t sound crazy at all—I’ll be alongside of you all, God willing. I won’t go without a hell of a fight—and it’s a fight I believe we can win—no matter what needs doing.
You know, I was raised a Catholic, but I respect the whole Judeo-Christian gamut ( the conservative ones) for the most part-even Buddhism has it’s merits.
I was never a fundamentalist, although I didn’t have any disrespect for them—I know the End Times scenario is in the Bible, and I didn’t doubt it—but I never gave it a lot of thought, and while I rolled my eyes at some outlandish predictions, I mostly just didn’t think much about it happening anytime soon.
Not any more. Things are creepier by the day. Who knows what’s next?—but we have to stand up to it. The good guys are on our side, I believe (or we’re on their side).
Interesting he should mention Korea. If people knew what happened on Koje Island, they would see an almost repeat in history on Gitmo. This time it's the Obama Chicago mob and American lawyers doing the damage.
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