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Congress Mandating That People Buy Health Insurance Like States Requiring Driver’s Licenses, Warner
Cybercast News Service ^ | 11/13/2009 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 11/13/2009 3:55:20 PM PST by markomalley

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To: Gator113

“My gaaawwwwddd, does this idiot even know how to tie his own shoes?”

Another Harvard lawyer. Personally, I wouldn’t hire one of ‘em to handle a speeding ticket/s;)


21 posted on 11/13/2009 4:23:21 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: markomalley

I hope we’re living in Virginia in 5 years when Virginia votes this Joker out of office. What an idiot! He obviously was not educated in Virginia schools or he would have a better grasp of the US Constitution. I wonder what it is that the Obama/Hillary camp is holding over his head in order to have him toe the line like this. Warner would have run for POTUS except he has something that the Clintons hold over his head. (gut instinct tells me this) Hmmmmmmmm


22 posted on 11/13/2009 4:24:22 PM PST by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: Rome2000

I will one-up you.
I vow that on the day that health insurance becomes mandatory
at the very next possible moment in time
I will cancel my health insurance and
I will go to the nearest law enforcement office and
demand to be arrested for failure to have health insurance.


23 posted on 11/13/2009 4:26:18 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: markomalley
...“no place in the Constitution that specifically says health care” or education, but “we have made those choices as a country over the years.”

There was a time we made choices as a country over the years that it was acceptable for one man to own another as property, too.

And that was actually in the Constitution.

Didn't make it right.

24 posted on 11/13/2009 4:36:00 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: markomalley
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) told CNSNews.com that the constitutional authority for Congress to require individuals to purchase health insurance is the same that allowed for Medicaid and Medicare, and for states to require driver’s licenses.

Dumbass Warner has no Ideal what the supreme court has said about driving.

25 posted on 11/13/2009 4:39:38 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
The illegal and unconstitutional federal mandate on US citizens to buy medical insurance, if upheld, will herald the death knell of the Republic.

At that point, it is every man for himself and time to begin organizing to convene a Constitutional Convention to reinstate Constitutional government and failing that, begin the process of separation.

26 posted on 11/13/2009 4:41:03 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: markomalley

Does the Senator feel the same way about requiring voter ID?


27 posted on 11/13/2009 4:41:38 PM PST by digger48
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To: markomalley
For many years, government considered a driver's license "a privilege — not a right", and thus there were few effective remedies available to a driver who wished to contest a suspension. The U.S. Supreme Court changed that, recognizing that a license's "continued possession may become essential in the pursuit of a livelihood". Because of their value, then, they "are not to be taken away without that procedural due process required by the Fourteenth Amendment". Note: Were it not for Bell, it is doubtful that the California DMV today would provide hearings to contest DUI license suspensions. See also, Mackey v. Montrym (1979) 443 U.S. 1, involving a license suspension for refusing to submit to a DUI breath test.

http://caselaw.duicenter.com/

28 posted on 11/13/2009 4:42:32 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Wow, did Warner take his stupid pills today?

1. No one is required to get a driver’s license. You can argue that it is required in order to do many of the things we rely on each day, but no one is forced to get one.

2. The amount of a driver’s license is what, 50 dollars every 5 years? Obamacare is 300/month. These costs aren’t even in the same ballpark. If Obamacare cost 10 bucks a year, I’d draw the analogy with a drivers’ license.


29 posted on 11/13/2009 4:42:51 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: markomalley

Exactly.


30 posted on 11/13/2009 4:44:52 PM PST by NotSoModerate
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To: BenKenobi
Obamacare is 300/month.

Where'd you hear that?

I heard it was $1250/month, minimum, to avoid the penalties.

31 posted on 11/13/2009 4:45:17 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I stand corrected.


32 posted on 11/13/2009 4:53:18 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: Repeal The 17th

I like your style. Everyone needs to get on board with your movement. I have already told one of my Senators and one Representative that I will to abide by the health care bill if it passes into law. Unfortunately, Lisa Murkowski does not seem to care about the constitutionality of the health care bill, and Begich is not worth the cyberspace required to send an email. Don Young’s has a good staff and I contacted them, but the issue is out of his hands now. I just hope enough people are willing to call the Government’s bluff on this health care issue. I am afraid too many people are going to leave a few of us twisting in the wind. Oh well, Refusing health care will be my first offense, if it passes.


33 posted on 11/13/2009 4:54:24 PM PST by Sarah-bot
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To: markomalley
States all the time require people to have driver’s licenses. I think that this is a bit of a spurious argument that’s being made by some folks.”

States require that you obtain a drivers license after you CHOOSE to operate a motor vehicle. Aside from a source of revenue it is an indication that you have evidenced the ability to operate said motor vehicle.

No similarity whatsoever, Warner botched the Pelosi line about states' requiring auto insurance.

34 posted on 11/13/2009 5:04:07 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: PIF

Um, if the person is going to die anyway, why bother with the $.50 pill? The money could be better applied elsewhere.

And that’s the way they think.

Except for them and theirs, of course...


35 posted on 11/13/2009 5:05:07 PM PST by benewton
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To: benewton

“Um, if the person is going to die anyway, why bother with the $.50 pill? The money could be better applied elsewhere.”

The two pills are FREE - just imagine. And no, the person in question does not have to be dying - just maybe in extreem pain and in need of a knee or hip replacement, for instance.

But, you know that after a few years, even that will be cut back on - but it won’t matter much because the dollar will be worthless by then and the European drug makers won’t accept US currency to buy the pills in the frst place.

Any spare ‘money’ will go to the govenment workers unions - the better applied elsewhere place.


36 posted on 11/13/2009 5:14:47 PM PST by PIF
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To: markomalley

“The United States Congress passed laws regarding Medicare and Medicaid that became de facto mandatory programs. States all the time require people to have driver’s licenses. I think that this is a bit of a spurious argument that’s being made by some folks.”

OMG! This is pathetically stupid. There is no Federal Driver’s license requirement, and Medicare isn’t mandatory under threat of fines and jail.

The only thing spurious here is Warner...


37 posted on 11/13/2009 5:21:28 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: cripplecreek
I think it isn’t much of a stretch to question the constitutionality of drivers licesnses in the first place...

Yeah but right or wrong, courts have ruled the other way. Still, those rulings apply to impositions by states, not the federal government, and don't in any way suggest a federal requirement to purchase health insurance is a legitimate power.

Bottom line remains the same though. Federal government providing "free" health care, or requiring citizens of the states or any other residents to purchase any particular health insurance or health services, are absolutely NOT permitted under the US constitution.

38 posted on 11/13/2009 5:38:51 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

2008 + 6 yrs= 2014 not 2012


39 posted on 11/13/2009 5:43:42 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: markomalley

Ummmmmmm.....so, like, I’m ‘driving my body around and my health may be putting other people at risk if I forget to take my pills’???? I don’t think so.


40 posted on 11/13/2009 5:51:56 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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