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CDC: 3,900 Americans Dead From H1N1 in Six Months
Foxnews.com ^ | 12 NOV 2009 | Reuters

Posted on 11/12/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

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To: Tulsa Ramjet

How many have been SAVED?


61 posted on 11/12/2009 1:22:57 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: MarineMom613
If that's true, there is a reason. The sentinel testing in my state is showing that almost all of the flu is swine flu.
62 posted on 11/12/2009 1:23:10 PM PST by sometime lurker
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To: DvdMom

Good find. There way too many false negatives from the rapid tests to depend on them for Swine flu testing.

Moral of the story - If you’re in a group that should be treated, take your medicine. Either way, stay home and don’t spread it.


63 posted on 11/12/2009 1:30:56 PM PST by sometime lurker
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To: DvdMom
swine flu killed an estimated 3,900 Americans from April to October

Guess what? Many, many more than that number of Americans die each and every day in this country!

During this same period an additional 368,400 Americans died from heart disease, another 326,600 Americans were killed by cancer, 80,000 Americans were killed by cerebrovascular diseases, 72,600 Americans died from lower respiratory diseases, 70,900 were killed by unintentional injuries, and another 496,800 Americans were killed from other diseases!

These deaths do not include the estimated 800,000 children that were murdered by abortionists during this same period. There were more than 200 innocent babies murdered for each victim of a swine flu death!
64 posted on 11/12/2009 1:41:40 PM PST by Brown Deer (4 Google execs are on Obama's staff - YouTube is owned by Google)
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To: sometime lurker

On the on-going swine flu thread they are other articles about the false negatives from the rapid H1N1 tests .

This study was interesting :

http://www.med-owl.com/health/H5N1-Virus-Therapy.html

here are some interesting flu links :

This is a thread on another forum PFI by Poster Homebody for US Child Deaths - August - October

Homebody does an amazing job with the thread ....

You need to first click on this link for the information & read the thread ...

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=3649&start=0

In Memory Of...
These children deserve to have their stories told.

List of all US deaths: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rZIWyvI97h892s2bmCVlm6A&pli=1 (by Howmanydays)
List of all US pediatric deaths: http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?p=249344&highlight=#249344 (by Get A Grippe)
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A partial list of children who died in May and June: http://singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?p=255202#255202

Also there is another website

http://www.flucount.org/ that has Worldwide H1N1 (Swine Flu) Infection Data

These are other flu websites that track H1N1 cases , deaths , articles , etc...

pandemic flu information website:

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewforum.php?f=1

Swine Flu.org. H1N1 Swine Flu Information & Discussion

http://www.swineflu.org/default.asp

Comprehensive Flu Thread, Latest reports, States, Countries, Closings.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=330395&page=188

Flu Trackers

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/index.php


65 posted on 11/12/2009 1:43:06 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Brown Deer

Healthy children , and adults who died from the swine flu is an issue some people are interested in .

You trying to deny that healthy children have died from the swine flu is IMO the same as people thinking there is NOTHING wrong with abortion.

The Healthy / and pre-existing people who died from H1N1 MATTER just like any aborted baby MATTERS !!!!!!!!!!!

So in my eye abortion is WRONG , & you are acting like a Pro-Abortion Supporter :(


66 posted on 11/12/2009 1:48:35 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Holy Cow! The numbers are really mounting, and winter isn’t even here yet.


67 posted on 11/12/2009 1:50:09 PM PST by Palladin (The Obama Administration: "A Czar Too Far")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
That's still a statistical ZERO. We lose six to eight times that in any annual flu season, just with influenza "Type A."
68 posted on 11/12/2009 1:50:52 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Palladin

It’s my understanding the way the stats are computed were revised.


69 posted on 11/12/2009 1:53:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

This is what they are reporting on their website about their estimates:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

H1N1-related hospitalizations.
•CDC estimates that between about 2,500 and 6,000 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range is about 3,900 2009 H1N1-related deaths.

Deaths

Age Mid-Level Range* Estimated Range *
0-17 years...................~540.....................~300 to ~800
18-64 years................. ~2,920 .....................~1,900 to ~4,600
65 years and older.........~440 .....................~300 to ~700
Deaths Total ..................~3,900.....................~2,500 to ~6,100


70 posted on 11/12/2009 2:00:18 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: newfreep

That’s counting the vaccines.


71 posted on 11/12/2009 2:01:08 PM PST by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: Gene Eric; Palladin

H1N1 pediatric deaths quadruple in US under new method

Health News

Nov 12, 2009, 18:14 GMT
Washington - Pediatric deaths from swine flu in the US are much more extensive than previously thought after health officials expanded their counting method, the nation’s disease control agency said Thursday.

An estimated 540 children under age 18 have died since the H1N1 flu virus emerged in mid April, more than four times the 129 pediatric deaths reported as of last week by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.

They were among the 3,900 people believed to have died from swine flu from mid April to October 17, the CDC said.

Dr Anne Schuchat, a top CDC official who has been in charge of H1N1 prevention and control, said that the agency had expanded its count to include children who have died of secondary infections or who did not have laboratory confirmation that they had swine flu.

‘It’s not a switch or a change from how we’ve been counting cases, it just gives us a bigger picture,’ she told reporters. ‘We don’t think things have changed from last week to this week. We believe the 540 number is a better picture of what is out there.’

All told, 22 million people in the US have become ill from the swine flu pandemic, including 98,000 who have been hospitalized and the 3,900 people who have died.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/health/news/article_1513044.php/H1N1-pediatric-deaths-quadruple-in-US-under-new-method


72 posted on 11/12/2009 2:01:30 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom

LOL - keep flogging the panic button. More posts - and longer - much, much longer. For example, when you posted the names and descriptions of children who died, you didn’t provide pictures of their favorite dolls, or their last birthday parties, or their graves. C’mon - you can do better!

And when you cite CDC statistics that predict billions and trillions of deaths, and the shattering of planets and the explosions of stars, you confuse it with your debunking of CDC statistics that you say aren’t true about the number of flu deaths, and the lack of precise measurements and studies and confirmations of actual H1N1 infections - please clear this up!

Especially when you talk about the heart-wrenching, crawling, drooling, bone-crushing deaths of those dying by secondary infections, versus the people who avoid heart-wrenching, crawling, drooling, bone-crushing deaths because the CDC statistics are wrong in their cases. So confusing!

Look, whipping up absolute extreme hysteria and encouraging panicked, kneeling, begging obedience to government injection-wielding authority takes precision and reliability. Please give it the time and focus it deserves - massive amounts of totalitarian domination are at stake here - get it right!


73 posted on 11/12/2009 2:08:46 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

I know you think everything in Ukraine is Rosy :)

You doth protest too much ....


Ukraine Dead Increase to 239 - Still No Sequences
Recombinomics Commentary 20:26
November 12, 2009

1,253,558 Influenza/ARI

65.615 Hospitalizations

239 Deaths

The above numbers are from the latest update from the Ukraine Ministry of Health. The number of deaths increased 26 to 239, so 50 new deaths have been reported in the past 2 days. Although the virus continues to spread (only 5 of the 27 reporting areas have not topped the epidemic threshold) many of the deaths are still being reported from the hard hit areas in western Ukraine(see map). However, the biggest jump in cases was 6.096 in Kiev to 89,339.

The steady increase in the high level of deaths continues to raise concerns about genetic changes in the H1N1. In this morning’s press conference the WHO discussed the need for prompt treatment with Tamiflu, but did not address genetic changes in Ukraine. Only general statements on the stability of the H1N1 were made in response to questions on genetic changes in Ukraine. Today’s conference is a week after the last comments on the Ukraine H1N1 sequences which indicated that there were no large changes, but an update would be forthcoming in a “few days”. It has now been over a week and no updates on genetic changes have been forthcoming.

The release of the sequences from Ukraine is long overdue.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11120902/Ukraine_239.html


74 posted on 11/12/2009 2:14:34 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Talisker

“You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!”

~~from some movie


75 posted on 11/12/2009 2:20:42 PM PST by Palladin (The Obama Administration: "A Czar Too Far")
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To: DvdMom
Healthy children , and adults who died from the swine flu is an issue

Are you completely blind? There are much bigger issues to worry about.

During this same period an additional 368,400 Americans died from heart disease, another 326,600 Americans were killed by cancer, 80,000 Americans were killed by cerebrovascular diseases, 72,600 Americans died from lower respiratory diseases, 70,900 were killed by unintentional injuries, and another 496,800 Americans were killed from other diseases!

Please don't minimize the deaths of millions of Americans each year in this country! The deaths attributed to the swine flu are just a tiny fraction of one percent of other deaths in this country - not including abortions!

As for your lame abortion comment - nobody murdered the swine flu victims - the abortions were preventable!

and DO NOT EVER ACCUSE ME OF BEING AN ABORTION SUPPORTER!
76 posted on 11/12/2009 2:24:01 PM PST by Brown Deer (4 Google execs are on Obama's staff - YouTube is owned by Google)
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To: DvdMom
I know you think everything in Ukraine is Rosy :)
You doth protest too much ....

LOL - I protest too much? You FLOOD every H1N1 thread with MILES of posts, and you can say that with a straight face? I'll give you one thing - your training was good. A better example of mirroring is hard to find.

As for the real ROSY threat in the Ukraine, it comes from Russian dioxin, not your little hysteria bug. And President Yushchenko agrees with me:


77 posted on 11/12/2009 2:28:30 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

I will buy you a plane ticket to go to Ukraine :)

Please take me up on my offer :)


78 posted on 11/12/2009 2:30:47 PM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom
An estimated 540 children under age 18 have died since the H1N1 flu virus emerged in mid April

An estimated TWO THOUSAND innocent and helpless children in the USA were murdered by abortion by their loving mothers, not since mid April, but TODAY alone!
79 posted on 11/12/2009 2:31:57 PM PST by Brown Deer (4 Google execs are on Obama's staff - YouTube is owned by Google)
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To: Palladin
“You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!” ~~from some movie

Your support of a fake pandemic comes from "some movie."

But your efforts to whip up hysteria for political purposes is all too real.

And that is the the truth.

80 posted on 11/12/2009 2:32:59 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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