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Muslims at Fort Hood Blame Army Command for Jihad Massacre ("Typical evasion of responsibility.")
jihadwatch.org ^ | 11/8/2009 | staff

Posted on 11/08/2009 5:43:46 AM PST by kellynla

"Muslims at Fort Hood voice outrage," by Michael Moss for the New York Times via MSNBC, November 7:

KILLEEN, Texas - Leaders of the vibrant Muslim community here expressed outrage on Friday at the shooting rampage being laid to one of their members, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who had become a regular attendee of prayers at the local mosque. But some of the men who had befriended Major Hasan at the mosque said the military should examine the policies that might have caused him to snap.

"When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal," said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. "But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

That's because that's what the Muslims who do it call it.

"Ultimately it was Brother Nidal's doing, but the command should be held accountable," Mr. Benjamin said. "G.I.'s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it."...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: blame; islam; muslim; nidalmalikhasan; terrorism; terrorists
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1 posted on 11/08/2009 5:43:47 AM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Islam is not to blame for any of the following either (joking of course)

1550 the Ottoman Empire rises

· 1683 Islamic invaders are halted once more at Vienne – Peter the Great joins the Holy Alliance

· 1869 the Ottoman Empire began to decline from Britain and France’s expansion into the Middle East

· 1908 the Young Turk Revolution beings and the Ottoman Empire declines as its joins the Central Powers

· 1928 the Muslim Brotherhood is founded by Hassan al-Banna

· 1933 the Saudi Arabian government signs an oil agreement with Standard Oil Company – a major source of funding has begun for the reemergence of Islam throughout the world

· 1939 the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini joins Hitler to form the Bosnian Waffen SS

· 1964 the Palestinian Liberation Organization is founded

· 1969 the tactic of commercial aviation hijackings becomes a norm among Islamic extremists

· 1970 Palestinians begin terrorism style assaults – this same year Black September attempts to seize Jordan

· 1972 Black September kills eleven Israelis at the Munich Olympic Games

· 1975 Lebanon, the last Christian Middle Eastern country, falls to Islamic invaders

· 1979 the Soviet Union invades Afghanistan and begins a proxy war involving covert ops by CIA to train Arab militias that are the forerunner to Al Qaeda / US Embassy personnel in Iran taken hostage for 444 days by the Iranian Islamic Revolution and Ayatollahs seize this once ally of the US

· 1982 Hezbollah founded by Shi’ites

· 1987 Hamas is founded by the Sunnis and is a faction of the Muslim Brotherhood

· 1989 the Soviet Union fails to Afghanistan and leaves – also the mujahadeen is left to seize control and begins preparing for a larger jihad across the world targeting Western interests

· 1991 the United States throws back Saddam Hussein in his quest to seize Kuwait and further expand Iraqi influence

· 1993 World Trade Center Bombing in New York City - the first of a series of attacks by Muslims targeting US locations

· 1994 Civilian plane flies into White House by Frank Eugene Corder on Sept 13.

· 1995 Oklahoma City: The first attack on US soil by Iraqi terrorists using US militiamen proxies detonated a Vehicle Bourn Improvised Explosive contained in a Ryder Truck and singly assigning guilt to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nicolas as domestic terrorism without any foreign connections

· 1996 Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia bombed

· 1998 Two US Embassy bombings in Africa by Al Qaeda

· 2000 USS Cole bombed by Al Qaeda in Yemen

· 2001 Pentagon and World Trade Center Attacks / The War on Terror begins

· 2003 Operation Iraqi Freedom begins - invasion of Iraq by US and Coalition Forces

· 2003 When the Granada Mosque was completed, Umar Ibrahim Vadillo, a Spanish Muslim leader, encouraged Muslims to cause an economic collapse of Western economies – Islam has returned

· 2005 London Bombings by Muslim extremists

· 2005 Paris is lit by fire and experiences riots by Islamic foreigners

· 2005 the first uses of Explosive Formed Projectiles have entered the battlefield in Iraq by Shia militias

· 2006 Al Qaeda in Iraq is targeted for destruction by Coalition Forces and the push begins

· 2007 the Surge in Baghdad pushes out remnants of Shia militias backed by Iranian Quds Force

· 2007 The Second Court of Appeals of the State of Texas has rendered a ruling on the enforceability of shari’a judgments rendered by imams – the foundation of Sharia in the US has begun

· 2008 Britain allows Sharia Courts to be used by major Muslim areas within this country

· 2008 The 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) passes the “defamation of religion” campaign at the U.N and sets law and punishment on those that speak against Islam

· 2009 A Dutch court yesterday ordered the criminal prosecution of Geert Wilders, Dutch parliamentarian and leader of the Freedom Party (PVV), for his statements - written, spoken and filmed -regarding Islam

· 2009 Austrian far-right parliamentarian Susanne Winter was convicted for making the charge that Mohammed was a pedophile for marrying an under-aged girl


2 posted on 11/08/2009 5:45:56 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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To: BCW
· 1939 the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini joins Hitler to form the Bosnian Waffen SS

· 1964 the Palestinian Liberation Organization is founded


1964 the Palestinian Liberation Organization is founded by the nephew of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
3 posted on 11/08/2009 5:48:41 AM PST by aruanan
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To: kellynla

Shouldn’t the brass at the base be blamed if they knew something was not right with the guy in the first place? Didn’t he have a history of causing problems that were well documented? If so, to say that the brass at the base aren’t responsible is, well, just irresponsible.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 5:49:30 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: kellynla

If they are willing to sit year after year in a Mosque and listen to the Jihadist BS, they are as guilty as the SOB who pulled the trigger!


5 posted on 11/08/2009 5:49:35 AM PST by WellyP
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To: BCW
1683 Islamic invaders are halted once more at Vienne

You mean Vienna. Vienne is a department of western France. The Turks never got anywhere near it!

6 posted on 11/08/2009 5:50:20 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: kellynla

“Muslims at Fort Hood Blame Army Command for Jihad Massacre (”Typical evasion of responsibility.”)”

Is this kind of like the scorpion and the frog fable ?


7 posted on 11/08/2009 5:52:33 AM PST by PLMerite (Was: Speak Truth to Stupid. Now: Ride to the sound of the Guns.)
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To: kellynla
"Muslims at Fort Hood voice outrage,"

Ohh, but there was more than just voiced outrage by Muslims at Fort Hood...

Do these people live in a cave or what?

8 posted on 11/08/2009 5:53:54 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sherman Logan

Smartypants!


9 posted on 11/08/2009 5:54:53 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: kellynla
"When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal," said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. "But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

Because of the MOTIVE
10 posted on 11/08/2009 5:55:11 AM PST by uncbob
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To: kellynla
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
11 posted on 11/08/2009 5:58:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
"...vibrant Muslim community..." ?
They need to be watched very carefully.
12 posted on 11/08/2009 6:04:49 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Well the Army definitely “dropped the ball” on this guy. He should have been "booted out" a long time ago...of course we had a HALF-MILLION DOLLARS invested in this POS's education!

BUT, I suspect ALL branches of the military including my beloved U.S.M.C. AND other gov’t agencies are very hesitant to investigate and/or reprimand members of the “protected” “religion of peace” for fear of being branded “racist.”

Semper Fi,
Kelly

13 posted on 11/08/2009 6:11:30 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: BCW

The Muslim Brotherhood is the reconstitution of the ASSASSINS of the 11th and 12 Century.

“Leader:
Hassan Sabbah.

Sabbah was an adherent of the Nizari Ismaili Shiite sect, whose members lived in Persia and Syria from the 11th century until the destruction of their dynasty by Mongols in the 13th century. Sabbah, eager to return Persia to Shii hands, committed himself to helping achieve the transformation by force. In 1090, he seized territory in northern Persia (today, Iran), an area that was then ruled by Sunni Saljuq Turks.

Organization:
Under Sabbah’s direction, an organization developed that could challenge the Saljuqs. Lebanese novelist Amin Maalouf describes an organization that today would quickly be labeled terrorist:

All members, from novices to the grand master, were ranked to their level of knowledge, reliability and courage. They underwent intensive training courses of indoctrination as well as physical training. Hasan’s favourite technique fng terror among his enemies was murder. The members of the sect were sent individually - or more rarely, in small groups of two or three - on assignments to kill some chosen personality.
They generally disguised themselves as merchants or ascetics and moved around in the city where the crime was to be perpetrated, familiarising themselves with the habits of their victims. Then, once their plan was ready, they struck. Although the preparation was always conducted in the utmost secrecy, the execution has to take place in the public, indeed before the largest crowd. That was why the preferred site was a mosque, the favourite day Friday, generally at noon.
For Hasan, murder was not merely a means of disposing an enemy, but was intended primarily as a twofold lesson for the public: first, the punishment of the victim, and, second, the heroic sacrifice of the executioner, who was called fidâ’î (plural : fidâ’în, or fedayeen), or ‘suicide commando’, because he was almost always cut down on the spot. (From A History of the Assassins”

http://terrorism.about.com/od/groupsleader1/p/Assassins.htm


14 posted on 11/08/2009 6:15:05 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: kellynla

In the first place how can it be racist. If anything, it is “religionist”. That said...all mooslims who go along with, support or are jihadists need a quick trip to the afterlife. What a bunch of uncivilized losers.


15 posted on 11/08/2009 6:15:42 AM PST by hal ogen
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To: kellynla

I don’t believe he “snapped”. I believe he as a devout Muslim had no business being in the US Army. Apparently he was conflicted about having to kill other Muslims so he made a choice. It is as simple as that!


16 posted on 11/08/2009 6:20:42 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: kellynla
"G.I.'s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it."...

They should start by purging the bases of the terrorist training materials - the koran and hadith.

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared,"Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

17 posted on 11/08/2009 6:21:04 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: kellynla
Easy enough for them to say but what about the linked interview about the Islamic visitor to the shooter's digs?

Only found on one posting but linked here.

Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...

18 posted on 11/08/2009 6:32:18 AM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Vibrant muslim community”

What, are they mixing up explosives?


19 posted on 11/08/2009 6:32:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: OldEagle
This POS didn't “snap”...he gave away all his possessions before he committed mass murder.
POINT, GAME, SET, MATCH!
20 posted on 11/08/2009 6:34:30 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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