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Gun used by Fort Hood Shooter legally bought "cop killer" pistol. (Huh?!)
AP ^ | 06 NOV 09 | By LARA JAKES and DEVLIN BARRETT (AP)

Posted on 11/06/2009 1:55:44 PM PST by DCBryan1

AP Sources: 1 rampage gun purchased legally By LARA JAKES and DEVLIN BARRETT (AP) – 20 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — A 5.7-millimeter pistol used in the Fort Hood shooting was purchased legally by suspect Nidal Hasan at a Texas gun shop, law enforcement officials said Friday.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

Records indicate Hasan bought the FN 5.7 at store called "Guns Galore" in Killeen, Texas, well before the attack that left 13 people dead, one of the officials said. The pistol has been dubbed a "cop killer" by those who have tried to stop its use.

The most powerful type of ammunition for the gun is available only to law enforcement and military personnel. Gun control advocates call it a "cop killer" weapon because that ammo can pierce bulletproof vests, and its use by Mexican drug cartels worries police.

It is not clear what kind of ammunition was used in the Fort Hood attack. One official said the store records do not indicate Hasan purchased any ammo when he bought the gun.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antigun; banglist; banguns; brady; copkiller; cw2; gunbanners; gungrabbers; handguncontrol; hci; nidalmalikhasan; sarahbrady; vpc
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To: DCBryan1
The FN 5.7 has been making the anti's wet their pants since it was introduced.

Of course a single shot .22 Cricket makes 'em wet their pants so....

2 posted on 11/06/2009 1:57:37 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: DCBryan1
It is not clear what kind of ammunition was used in the Fort Hood attack...

Of course, because the 'cop killer' ammunition will work in this gun, they jumped to the conclusion by implication in the title that is what he used even though they have no clue what ammunition was used.

3 posted on 11/06/2009 1:58:33 PM PST by mnehring
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To: DCBryan1
Its reserved for cops and military I think I read somewhere.

He planned this for months.

4 posted on 11/06/2009 1:58:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: DCBryan1

IT WASN’T LEGALLY BOUGHT IF HE USED A FALSE NAME IDIOT NEWS MEDIA.
...
PREMEDITATED MURDER BY AN ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORIST.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: GeronL

Only the SS190 ammo is restricted.
Anybody with a clean record can buy the pistol if it’s permitted in their state.

I’ve seen about a dozen of them at the gun range and fired them a bunch of times. No big deal.


6 posted on 11/06/2009 2:00:55 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: GeronL
Its reserved for cops and military I think I read somewhere.

Wrong! I own both the pistol and the semi-auto FN PS90. Both can be had by LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

7 posted on 11/06/2009 2:01:01 PM PST by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: Lurker

Perhaps these brain-trusts can explain to us what single gun isn’t capable of being a cop killer. Even an air gun if used improperly can kill a police officer.

The spin just keeps on spinning...


8 posted on 11/06/2009 2:01:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: Marty62

OOPS.
If the surveillance cameras don’t show a-hole buying the gun...then there IS a second suspect.
Wonder which.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 2:01:27 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: DCBryan1

i believe there’s at least cop that would disagree that this is a “cop killer” gun.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 2:01:30 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: DCBryan1

the ammo, I think


11 posted on 11/06/2009 2:01:44 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Marty62
...cop killer" pistol.

WTF is a cop killer pistol?

12 posted on 11/06/2009 2:03:09 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: DCBryan1
A story from AP

I am surprised that "Cop Killer" is not in red flashing letters that are 6" high.

Same old BS from AP

13 posted on 11/06/2009 2:03:13 PM PST by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: GeronL

I believe a steel-core 7.62x25mm FMJ will penetrate out of a TT33/CZ52 just as well as a 5.7 out of a FN5.7.....AND FOR ALOT LESS!


14 posted on 11/06/2009 2:03:18 PM PST by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: DCBryan1
Many of the same people who wet their pants over “cop killer” bullets also wet their pants when cops have to use deadly force on dirtbags bent on killing.
15 posted on 11/06/2009 2:04:08 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (B. Hussein Obama is not the legitimate POTUS. He is nothing more than America's largest cult leader)
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To: DCBryan1
> Gun used by Fort Hood Shooter legally bought “cop killer” pistol.

Religion used by Fort Hood Shooter legally bought “Infidel killer” Koran.

16 posted on 11/06/2009 2:04:39 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper ("horrific outburst of violence" = USofKKK made him do it!)
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To: Snurple

That is a special media brand. Doncha know /s


17 posted on 11/06/2009 2:06:35 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: DCBryan1

Bump for later.


18 posted on 11/06/2009 2:06:46 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: TYVets

Didn’t the cop {female} put the raghead terrorist, using a cop killer gun, in a coma?


19 posted on 11/06/2009 2:08:11 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/fiveseven.htm


20 posted on 11/06/2009 2:09:55 PM PST by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (FUBO!))
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To: DCBryan1

I don’t care if he used a BB gun or a bazooka. What needs to be stressed is that our bases, our MILITARY bases, are “gun-free zones”. Like shooting fish in a barrel.


21 posted on 11/06/2009 2:10:16 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: DCBryan1

Omoslem promised to pull the USA out of Iraq, but didn’t.

That “upset” Jihad Johnny.

OBAMA LIED, SOLDIERS DIED.


22 posted on 11/06/2009 2:12:06 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: GRRRRR

The thing that makes that gun so effective is that it carries a 20 round magazine (pretty sure)


23 posted on 11/06/2009 2:22:22 PM PST by refermech
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To: TennesseeGirl

Quite worrisome. Makes one wonder about how secure our homeland bases truly are against an organized attack...


24 posted on 11/06/2009 2:23:39 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: DCBryan1

Maybe it would help the AP if when reposted, this article should be rewritten to call them “Muslim ‘cop killer’ bullets”.

But what is a “Muslim ‘cop killer’ bullet?”, you might ask. Simple. It is an *ordinary* bullet, that when fired from a gun by a Muslim, is *magically* enhanced by Islam to be able to kill police officers.

The only drawback to this idea is that writers for the AP are such a dense lot that they would probably take it seriously.


25 posted on 11/06/2009 2:26:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: DCBryan1

The media are idiots then. Dang, I should have figured that. They never get anything about guns right.


26 posted on 11/06/2009 2:36:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: refermech

“Another thread is saying he has at least one FN Five-Seven pistol.
The magazines for those hold 20 rounds, with one in the gun. Also, that gun has little recoil and is relatively easy for even a novice shooter to shoot fast. If he had 2 of them, that’s 42 rounds without reloading.”

I was told this earlier today by someone with far greater knowledge of the subject than I. Perhaps this will help.


27 posted on 11/06/2009 2:37:01 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: SJSAMPLE

figures that the media never gets anything right about guns


28 posted on 11/06/2009 2:37:06 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: refermech
The thing that makes that gun so effective is that it carries a 20 round magazine (pretty sure)

Lots of guns hold 20 rounds or can fit magazines that do. Not that it matters much since anyone with decent training can swap out a 17 round magazine in a second.
29 posted on 11/06/2009 2:38:47 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: DCBryan1

The media: Comedy for the 21st century. More funny because they’re not in on the joke!


30 posted on 11/06/2009 2:41:42 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: DCBryan1

ANY gun can kill a cop ( and you and me also )!!!


31 posted on 11/06/2009 2:46:30 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies om Planet' and " Battle of the Worlds " on Blu-ray ?)
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To: DCBryan1

Our devout Muslim, Mr. Hasan, was also stopped by a gun. And their point is? These “journalists” will use this crime to advance anything.


32 posted on 11/06/2009 2:47:32 PM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: Lurker

A Draco AK pistol would do the job also .


33 posted on 11/06/2009 2:48:53 PM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies om Planet' and " Battle of the Worlds " on Blu-ray ?)
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To: DCBryan1
A 5.7-millimeter pistol used in the Fort Hood shooting was purchased legally by suspect Nidal Hasan at a Texas gun shop

It is probable that many of the victims survived due to him using a 5.7mm firearm. The number of deaths would likely have been higher if he had used a gun which fired the far more common 9mm, 40s&w, or 45acp jacketed hollowpoints.

34 posted on 11/06/2009 2:49:10 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: DCBryan1

Obviously the spin talking points have been issued to the MSN by Axelrod from the heady precincts of the White House.
We need to change the language. I laugh about all the descriptions of this incident.
Words are used like shootings , killings , ( couched in terms as if the victims could shoot back.)

This happened at a med facility where there was a long cue for flu shots and other medical processing.The perpetrator calmly got to his feet , reached into his jacket, drew two pistols and calmly started walking down the rows of people , pointing his weapons and shooting them calmly, point blank, in cold blood.

This was not “shootings” This was not “killings.” This was genocidal execution. These human beings were dispatched as if they were animals.One woman was 6 months pregnant.

TIME TO TELL THE TRUTH. GENOCIDAL EXECUTION is what this was.

The same sort that happened in Kenya , courtesy of Obama’s tinkering there, in 2007.

OBAMA’S FAULT!!!!!!!

THIS WAS AN ACT OF RELIGIOUS GENOCIDE.

THIS WAS A WAR CRIME.


35 posted on 11/06/2009 2:50:28 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
A 5.7-millimeter pistol used in the Fort Hood shooting was purchased legally by suspect Nidal Hasan at a Texas gun shop

So says the same media who reported the muslim perp was dead!

36 posted on 11/06/2009 2:53:45 PM PST by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: DCBryan1
If a Muslim purchased the gun well in advance of his cowardly attack, doesn't that make it a "premeditated terrorist attack by an extremist Muslim bent on killing innocent patriots for his sick religion"?
37 posted on 11/06/2009 2:57:58 PM PST by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

It is probable that many of the victims survived due to him using a 5.7mm firearm. The number of deaths would likely have been higher if he had used a gun which fired the far more common 9mm, 40s&w, or 45acp jacketed hollow points.


Agreed. When I had heard that the cop who stopped him was wounded with a shot through both legs, I assumed 9mm solid (FMJ). This poodle shooter round makes more sense.

If he’d been shooting any of the rounds you mention, there’d have been more fatalities.


38 posted on 11/06/2009 3:01:39 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Why not "interpret" your tax returns like the Supreme Court "interprets" the Constitution?)
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To: DCBryan1
How predictable.
Spun as another reason the 2nd's flawed.

Good grief.

39 posted on 11/06/2009 3:03:01 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: DCBryan1

I wonder if he had any of those 10 round magazine extensions? http://www.impactguns.com/store/CMMG57EXT.html


40 posted on 11/06/2009 3:06:14 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: DCBryan1; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Just once I d like to tattoo on all the libs' foreheads... Robert A. Heinlein's "There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men."
41 posted on 11/06/2009 3:08:51 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: DCBryan1

The ‘intellects’ so easily neglect the critical component that resulted in the assassinations - desire. If not in Ft. Hood, then quite possibly Hasan’s needs would have been satisfied overseas with potentially greater fatalities.

Something corrupted Hasan’s mind. It wasn’t fabricated steel.


42 posted on 11/06/2009 3:10:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Speaking out against Free Speech is 'Hate Speech')
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To: DCBryan1

According to Gun Digest the 5.7 is less powerful and has less stopping power than a 9MM.

http://www.gundigest.com/article/FN5.7_PartTwo/


43 posted on 11/06/2009 3:23:20 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Renegade
A Draco AK pistol would do the job also.

That will probably be the next target of the antigun freaks.

44 posted on 11/06/2009 3:50:23 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Snurple
WTF is a cop killer pistol?

An attempt for AP to try and make the story about anything other than the killer's religion.

45 posted on 11/06/2009 3:52:42 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: DCBryan1
and its use by Mexican drug cartels worries police.

Wow. The AP even managed to tie in the Mexican drug war (gotta ban guns to save Mexico, you know) with this crappy story.

"A" for effort, commies!

46 posted on 11/06/2009 3:55:21 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Even an air gun if used improperly can kill a police officer.”
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Someone told me recently that he knew a teenage boy who killed a large feral hog. He was sitting on a deer stand when the hog walked under it and he shot him in the forehead...with a pellet rifle!


47 posted on 11/06/2009 4:42:48 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: DCBryan1; popataz
From FReeper popataz:

The major was a regular at a shooting range I have a partner with. He used a FN 5.7 x 28 pistol. He was at the range this weekend and was very adept at shooting targets at 100 yards.

From the same thread:
I called the FBI as soon as I saw his picture. I am sorry but he would expend 400 rounds each day he was at the range. I am an instructor for Texas CHL and he was in a class of mine 6 weeks ago.

48 posted on 11/06/2009 4:48:11 PM PST by jellybean ( Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Beelzebubba

“If he’d been shooting any of the rounds you mention, there’d have been more fatalities.”
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Depending on where they were hit, one soldier was on TV today and said that he was not actually hit, he had a round in his boot. Even a fifty caliber won’t kill anyone if it only hits a finger.


49 posted on 11/06/2009 4:49:53 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: DCBryan1
Are steel core bullet legal in TX?
50 posted on 11/06/2009 5:08:55 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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