Religion as a defense to science. It's happened whenever the religious become scared of scientific advances. They even accused Newton, a deeply religious man, of mixing the occult and science.
It is unprovable
Leave your proofs to math where they belong. Otherwise, we're talking about a scientific theory. Meanwhile, Natural Selection was coined by a person who was deeply religious at the time, but was able to separate his personal beliefs and science.
“IDER’s” as you call them want SCIENCE not propaganda and junk Science.
ID is founded in religion, and so is its precursor, creationism.
We use Singapore Science. There is no “religion” in there. It is straight SCIENCE.
I don't know anything about these people, but I just looked them up. You may be right since although they mention Behe's idiot book, they put a disclaimer on it that they in no way endorse or agree with it.
The people in Singapore and for the most part the rest of the industrialized world can't understand your problem with evolution. To them it's a non-issue. You have your belief, and that's fine. But teach the current state of science, and right now that's evolution.
BTW, I didn't bother to read your rely. Circular logic bores me and that is what you reply is all about as well as you clininging to YOUR "religion" of Darwin, atheism and evolution and why other countries don't use it. It's a losing combination.
Singapore Science doesn't dwell on Darwin or evolution as the U.S. does. The propaganda is GONE! It's PURE SCIENCE. If you prefer the propaganda approach then by all means, stay with it!
Here's an exchange between a secular home schooler and a Singapore Science vendor:
We are teaching our children biology and geology from a non-religious perspective and hope that Singapore Science can fulfill that need. (They are already profiting heavily from the Math books). We can find no other integrated series of textbooks with this feature, at least that is compatible with homeschooling programmes.
Also, we are in Canada, and because of shipping costs and exchange rates we have been buying our Singapore Math books from two local home school vendors. Neither carries the Singapore Science books though, and we have have not yet discussed with either ordering these through them. What are your shipping rates to Canada?
Secular Homeschooler
#2 09-13-2009, 10:13 AM
Jenny
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Our science books are secular, but usually what people mean by that is if they teach evolution. They are for grades 7-10, and at that level they do not teach it in Singapore. So you would have to supplement, or, best I think, do a college Biology text after the Biology, Chemistry, and Physics texts.
http://singaporemaths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1623
What is taught THERE has nothing to do with “religion” or YOUR religion of evolution. Nothing! It's straight science.
We use their Math as well as Science. BTW, I hear California schools use Singapore Math.
BTW, anyone that comes to a U.S. University/College cruises through the FIRST TWO YEARS here because they cover that in HIGH SCHOOL in the Pacific Rim.
Here is their curriculum for Science:
http://www.singaporemath.com/Science_s/2.htm
Here is their curriculum for Math:
http://www.singaporemath.com/Mathematics_s/1.htm
There is no wonder after you start using their curriculums about why their kids are smart and beat the pants off the DUMB U.S. kids. But, if you want to continue to dumb YOUR kids down, by all means stay with the evolution and Darwin Sci-fi approach which doesn't cover true science. Continue to frame it as a "religious" thing - LOL!!!! It is YOU who is hung up on Darwin and Evolution as YOUR "RELIGION".
BTW they aren't hung up on class room size either as they are in the U.S.. Lazy union teachers do have less work but over there, they want their kids to learn. It's part of their culture. Here we fret over too many books in their back packs. Over there, there is NO COMPLAINT about that. They want to learn and as I have said many times, are BRIGHT and beat the U.S. kids EVERY TIME when it comes to KNOWLEDGE.