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Update: Army: 13 dead, 31 hurt in attack at Fort Hood (Shooter on a ventilator & unconscious)
Townhall ^ | Friday, November 06, 2009 | APRIL CASTRO and DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 11/05/2009 11:30:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

An Army psychiatrist set to be shipped overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army post Thursday, authorities said, a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded in the worst mass shooting ever at a military base in the United States.

The gunman, first said to have been killed, was wounded but alive in a hospital under military guard, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. He was shot four times, and was on a ventilator and unconscious, according to military officials. "I would say his death is not imminent," Cone said.

The man was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old from Virginia.

President Barack Obama called the shooting at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening, "a horrific outburst of violence."

"It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas," the commander in chief said. "It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an Army base on American soil."

Soldiers rushed to treat their injured colleagues by ripping their uniforms into makeshift bandages. Officials have not ruled out the possibility that some casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," shot by authorities amid the mayhem and confusion at the scene, said a senior U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that were under investigation.

Hasan had transferred to Fort Hood in July from Walter Reed Medical Center, where he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; forthood; hewhowillnotbenamed; islam; jihad; jihadinamerica; muzziemurderer; nidalmalikhasan; quransyndrome; terroristindisguise
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1 posted on 11/05/2009 11:30:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Cindy; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; BIGLOOK; kellynla; blam; SunkenCiv; ...

fyi


2 posted on 11/05/2009 11:30:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why do we not hear about the other two who were arrested? What happened to them?


3 posted on 11/05/2009 11:39:11 PM PST by groanup
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To: groanup

Questioned and released, from what I understand.


4 posted on 11/05/2009 11:43:35 PM PST by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: groanup

I think they were released. But then I heard they took in one more. Don’t know where that went.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 11:44:02 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He’s unconscious, on a ventilator?

I know something that’ll help him make a full recovery.

Do the “Bacon Dance” while singing the Bacon Song:

“Baconnnnnnnn.....
Moslems love baconnnnnn....
It’s their favorite thinggggg......
So here, eat this baconnnnn....”

Then you stuff his mouth full of freshly grilled juicy bacon.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 11:50:28 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: Islam=Murder
I think they should just fry up a bunch of bacon in his room. It really does have an irresistible smell.

I know I can't resist it once I get a whiff...

7 posted on 11/05/2009 11:52:59 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess he got ventilated if he’s on a ventilator.

...


8 posted on 11/05/2009 11:53:32 PM PST by wastedyears (My 15 seconds of fame are on my profile.)
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To: Allegra

I love BLT sandwiches on some sourdough bread....I am sure he could learn to like the sandwich also.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 11:56:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The gunman, first said to have been killed, was wounded but alive in a hospital under military guard, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. He was shot four times, and was on a ventilator and unconscious, according to military officials. “I would say his death is not imminent,” Cone said.
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Well,,,That’s sorta good news,,,

I gotta wonder why the General Lied!!!,,,

The CID was with the moozzi the whole time,,,

He couldn’t fart without the Gen. knowing about it!!!...


10 posted on 11/06/2009 12:02:18 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Islam=Murder

Your post is a reminder to me that American Spec is a superior forum.

You can surely do better than that.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 12:05:55 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Military installations are a far easier target than most people think.
12 posted on 11/06/2009 12:06:35 AM PST by BBell
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To: BBell

I guess it’s a “gun free zone”?? No more. Israeli soldiers are in deep shit if they’re caught WITHOUT a loaded gun at all time. We have to realize, this is frickin war, there is no “safe” zone anymore. If a bunch of soldiers can be gunned down, on a military base, with no recourse available to them, we are indeed in bigger trouble than we thought.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 12:11:31 AM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a very long O Katana that I would love to apply
to Maj. Hasan


14 posted on 11/06/2009 12:13:38 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Soothesayer9

And your post reminds us that you are a Troll with no hope for improving.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 12:13:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Soothesayer9

Your post is a reminder to me that American Spec is a superior forum.
~~~
Maybe you should go home...


16 posted on 11/06/2009 12:16:56 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Soothesayer9

“You can surely do better than that.”

We surely can, you surely can’t. Turn tail and run.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 12:36:25 AM PST by This Just In
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Are there any guns allowed on Military bases?

This one guy wouldn’t have got this far at my house.

Has the DNC WH and congress melted all the guns?


18 posted on 11/06/2009 12:38:00 AM PST by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: NoLibZone; hulagirl

How does this contention that this was a “gun-free zone” square with the statement that some of the casualties could have been caused by “friendly fire”?

Not enough is known about this incident yet to make cheap points about gun ownership or terrorism. We still dont know the motive - he might have just been depressive.


19 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:05 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: hulagirl
We do have to realize it's a war.
Drawing from my own experiences I can relate to you how anti-gun the military is. The anti-gun attitude does change from region to region.

If you live in the barracks you are required to keep your personnel firearms in the armory. You get a weapons card for it just like you do for your G.I. weapon. You are not allowed to have ammunition in your room or vehicle.

If you live in base housing you must register your weapons with the base Provost Marshall and you are supposed to keep the weapons and ammunition locked up separately.

You are not allowed a weapon in the cab of your vehicle. The exception is if you are going hunting and have a base permit to hunt.

I live in a state that allows you to keep a loaded weapon in your car. My wife is retired military and works on a military installation in a questionable part of town. I asked her to carry a weapon with her when she goes to and from work. She will not because she is not allowed to have it in her car on the installation.

Thousands of people come to work on various military installation everyday and you can bet most of them are not armed as they don't want to risk a career ending njp if they are caught with it. This creates a target rich enviorment for a terrorist. We need to change this.

As I said, the attitudes towards guns changes by location. And one last thing. The Military does not give a crap whether you have a ccw or not.

20 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:09 AM PST by BBell
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To: NoLibZone

read my post number 20.


21 posted on 11/06/2009 12:59:59 AM PST by BBell
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

More from the ROP.


22 posted on 11/06/2009 1:06:25 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Vanders9

Military installations are largely gun free zones.


23 posted on 11/06/2009 1:08:13 AM PST by BBell
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To: BBell

I’m not surprised if the personnel are so unstable.


24 posted on 11/06/2009 1:23:05 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
I think the basis for the military anti-gun policy is that they think they can't trust the troops and no officer wants to have something bad happen on their watch. The easy thing is to restrict everything. This will be a career ender for many an officer from the base commander on down.
25 posted on 11/06/2009 1:34:50 AM PST by BBell
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To: Vanders9

“I’m not surprised if the personnel are so unstable.”

Consider, this guy is a psychiatrist (their type has always left me uneasy as I think they’re unstable by nature), and he’s a Muslim in the US military who is bucking to get out of the service (after they paid for his education), and he’s about ready to deploy to Islamaville which even a true believer realizes is a very bad place to go.

Does anyone expect a different result? Certainly not you or I.


26 posted on 11/06/2009 1:38:19 AM PST by Habibi
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This probably won’t make the national news, but last evening as reports were coming into the Dallas TV stations, one of the news readers mentioned that the good Major was Muslim, and that he had been posting disturbing items on the Internet about a suicide bombing. He was talking about blowing himself up and taking out others.


27 posted on 11/06/2009 1:44:00 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: Texas Jack

I have to catch up on this story but HE WAS A SLEEPR CELL!


28 posted on 11/06/2009 1:47:51 AM PST by angcat ("GO YANKEES")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He was a moderate Muslim. Then he suddenly got religion.


29 posted on 11/06/2009 1:59:59 AM PST by Salman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And why has noone called this what it is? The T word? The big T? Maybe even the M word?

This was a terrorist attack, carried out by a Moslem TERRORIST!


30 posted on 11/06/2009 2:03:56 AM PST by ketelone
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To: Vanders9

Fah! An Muslim fanatic opens fire, and you say the personnel are unstable?


31 posted on 11/06/2009 2:05:33 AM PST by ketelone
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To: Vanders9

The murder rate for the military is lower than in our general population... Better stay home and lock your doors.


32 posted on 11/06/2009 3:11:26 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Vanders9
He shot a pregnant soldier, along with the others, right after receiving a promotion.

He was unstable alright, but never saw a day of combat.

33 posted on 11/06/2009 3:16:40 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Salman

Another moderate peacful Mohammedan kills infidels.

The Mosque in Virginia in needs an FBI - CIA probe.


34 posted on 11/06/2009 3:17:34 AM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: wastedyears

I would think four bullets would have “ventilated” this ass hole enough. Let the prick suffocate.


35 posted on 11/06/2009 3:22:10 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The manmass murderer was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old from Virginia Jordan.

Barack Obama "My Muslim Faith" My Sacrifice remix

36 posted on 11/06/2009 3:26:09 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Habibi

If hes the psychiatrist, what must the people he’s been treating be like?


37 posted on 11/06/2009 3:27:10 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
Have you ever been around cops shooting? last place I want to be. Notoriously bad shots and trigger happy.
38 posted on 11/06/2009 3:33:05 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: BBell
A couple of weeks ago I was at a meeting at a military installation.

The chaplain was asked to brief his slides to the commanding general as part of a weekly update to the fort. The chaplain talked about this Muslim holiday here, and that Muslim holiday there.

The entire slide was about upcoming Muslim events. And no, the chaplain was not a Muslim chaplain, but apparently a PC dressed down clown who had zero conviction for his supposed Christian faith. I know this because I saw him lead a "prayer" earlier that was so secular and watered down, it could have been given by a Wiccan motivational speaker.

39 posted on 11/06/2009 3:34:52 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: BBell

I would think that is exactly the reason. And if you think about it, as an argument it does have its merits. Aggression (admittedly controlled aggression) is a key attribute of a good soldier. Now, they get stressed, they get pumped, the army psychiatrist who is supposed to monitor them is a secret Jihadist and anyway is too busy trying to get out of his obligations - there is a real possibility of mayhem. I think there was an incident in Iraq early on when a soldier murdered a couple of his colleagues - I believe a woman was involved in that. And as you say, any officer who is on watch when that happens is going to get blamed, no matter how little he could do about it, so the safest course of action is to simply take away the soldiers main method of causing lethal harm. Unfortunately, this is a war that is becoming all encompassing. Its not just taking place in some far off place. It is here, and now.


40 posted on 11/06/2009 3:37:06 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Salman

As one of my coworkers said a few hours ago after learning of this terrorist attack (why not call it what it is), a moderate muslim is one who has run out of ammo.


41 posted on 11/06/2009 3:37:55 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: PA-RIVER
The Mosque in Virginia in needs an FBI - CIA probe.

So does the one in the vicinity of Ft. Hood, where the shooter hung out.

42 posted on 11/06/2009 3:39:03 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." VP Charles Curtis, 1932)
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To: SkyPilot

Too frightened of “offending” people.


43 posted on 11/06/2009 3:39:26 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: ketelone

The shooter was one of the personnel.


44 posted on 11/06/2009 3:39:56 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Habibi

Curiously, I think becoming a psychiatrist MAKES you unstable. It’s far too easy to read too much into things if you dwell too much on your studies.

I’ve always felt psychiatry is something that you should know everything about, or nothing about. A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing.


45 posted on 11/06/2009 3:42:40 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: MEG33

Perhaps that means the general populations is even MORE unstable.


46 posted on 11/06/2009 3:44:10 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Earthdweller

I thought his last performance review was poor? So how come he got a promotion?


47 posted on 11/06/2009 3:44:57 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: mad_as_he$$

No, I haven’t, but I’ll take your word for their lack of skill and forebearance. It doesn’t surprise me one iota.


48 posted on 11/06/2009 3:46:16 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Like I said..stay home.


49 posted on 11/06/2009 3:48:22 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: MEG33

Ever seen that movie “Surrogates”?


50 posted on 11/06/2009 3:51:56 AM PST by Vanders9
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