Posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:02 PM PST by lady lawyer
The news of the mass shooting at Fort Hood Thursday hit close to home for some Utahns. One man says his daughter heard the shooter exclaim "Allah Akbar" as he opened fire.
We want to stress that no government or military officials are reporting that and there is no way for us to independently confirm that it is true.
The family from northern Utah agreed to talk to us, on the condition we not identify them and blur out some photos they've supplied, because they're worried their daughter could get in trouble with her superiors for making public what she told her family she saw.
The soldier's father says his daughter was at Fort Hood Thursday when the shooting happened, and she called him, frantic and upset, soon after.
"She said, ‘Dad, I'm OK. Don't worry, I'm OK.' And initially I said, ‘What are you talking about?' She said, ‘Haven't you heard?' And I said, ‘No.' And she said, ‘We've been attacked by terrorists,'" the father explained.
He told KSL News soldiers were sitting in a staging area for medical and dental checks when the group was startled by gunfire.
"A person behind counter stood up, and he said, ‘Allah Akbar!' And just opened up on everybody," the father told us.
Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means? I’ve heard the phrase, just don’t know what it means in English
It means “god is great”.
Said right before killing non-Muslims, for nearly 1,300 years.
KSL is not known as a rumor monger type of outfit, old and very respected.
A bombshell if someone can collaborate the story.....
Explains why Shep Smith was asking everyone he talked to this afternoon if the shooter was vocalizing anything, they must have heard a rumor.
God is great.
This guy wanted to be a martyr for jihad..I am glad he is alive..that is what he wanted, he wanted to die, so that he could be a martyr, and he failed..now he has to pay for his crimes. This was a terrorist attack, I don’t give a hoot how the media spins it
IIRC, “God is good!”
Will we see this info on the news (including FOX) anytime soon? I’m still waiting for the outrage from the MSM over the way HolyO addressed the Fort Hood Massacre, several minutes AFTER giving ‘shout outs’ to his buds on the reservation or wherever the heck he was! >:-(
If this turns out to be true, it will be
A) unreported by the press, and
B) utterly unsurprising.
God is Great....according to search I did...it’s been repeatedly reported during various terrorist type of actions (previously) that the perp said it...
If he survived, I hope they hang this bastard!
No doubt in my mind.
The business insider has one of this nut jobs scribed documents
When that 19 year old Bosnian Muslim shot up the Trolley Square mall and killed a bunch of people here a few years ago, the local media went to great pains to cover up any possible religious motive. Stories would appear once, then never be mentioned again. The kid’s father was a member of the Bosnian Mujihadeen. The kid hinted to his girlfriend about a great thing he was going to do. Then, when they took his body back to Bosnia, his fellow Muslims gave him a hero’s burial. But, there was no religious motive, of course.
“bombshell”.
Not a suprise here but in the media this will totally destroy the stress angle here and paint it as an obvious islamic treason.
is there a list yet of who was injured and where they are from? Our lovely California Gov is congratulating kirk douglas for some award, just wondering if he should be thinking of his constituen’s who are based in Texas?
Here's the bombshell in the story:
The family from northern Utah agreed to talk to us, on the condition we not identify them and blur out some photos they've supplied, because they're worried their daughter could get in trouble with her superiors for making public what she told her family she saw.
That a Paliwog shouted respect for his vile god as he killed our soldiers is no bombshell. That a witness thereto fears reprisal from her stinking government, now that's a bombshell!
No, it means Allah is great. Allah is not God, or even god. Allah is Satan.
Timothy McVey, a domestic terrorest, was caught, convicted and executed in short order as he should have been. Let's see how they treat this guy.
It means break for cover.
This has all happened before many times over...
In fact we are vulnerable far more than we realize.
WE have hundreds of thousands of Muslims already here in this country who will arise and kill...which is that hey have done everywhere they have infiltrated.
It is only a matter of time...
prisoner6
Here is an interesting link and possible connection>
“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379728/posts
He worked for Homeland Security in Obozo’s transition team.
Was Hasan heckled by the Troops at Hood for his sympathy for his fellow Muslims. Did he explode and shoot a bunch of them?
Was this about his connection to the Obozo team. Many in the Mil would not like him for this.
Just a question.
I quit watching the MSM and Fox for “news” the Web is usually
faster
more accurate (in the longer run)
provides more ‘local detail’
and allows for local people affected to put an event in perpective....
In the FWIW, I used to spend my nights on the Nellis range (waaaaay out there) listening to KSL and KFI, both great AM stations....
Rest assured, the record will say that never happened.
(Wikipedia)"The form Allāhu is the nominative of Allah "[the one] God" The form akbar is the elative of the adjective kabīr "great". In Semitic languages, an elative may indicate a superlative (best), or a comparative (better). The term takbīr (تَكْبِير) itself is the stem II verbal noun (tafʿīlun) of the triliteral root k-b-r "great".[1]
The word akbar as used in the takbir indicates the superlative, usually translated as "greatest". In Arabic usage, akbar may also be used as a comparative, in which sense it may be approximately translated as "greater", or "bigger" in some dialects (dictionaries carry both senses of akbar).
[edit] Usage This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when they want to praise a speaker, during battles, and even times of extreme stress or euphoria.
The phrase is said during each stage of both obligatory prayers, which are supposed to be performed five times a day, and supererogatory prayers, which are performed at will. The Muslim call to prayer, or adhan, and to commence the prayer, or iqama, also contains the phrase, which is heard in cities all over the Muslim world. Utterances in the Prayer.
Note that takbīr (تَكْبِير) is only the name of the expression, while the phrase itself is "Allahu Akbar". In the Islamic world, instead of applause, often someone will shout "takbir" and the crowd will respond "Allahu Akbar" in chorus.
During the Iranian revolution of 1979, the call was shouted from rooftops during the evenings as a form of protest. This practice returned in the aftermath of the 2009 Iranian presidential election.[2][3] The phrase has also been used after the election to show the protest of the people against the election results. Many people shouted this phrase from 22:00-23:00 for 9 days after the 2009 Iranian election to show their protest to the result."
If you view any horrific Islamist videos taken from a distance showing one of their successful IEDs against our guys in the field, the minute the frikkin things explode, they yell "Allahu Ahkbar". Also, in those execution videos of hostages popular a while back, at the time of severing those non-Muslims heads, Al-Zarkawi and his henchmen invariably yelled "Allahu Ahkbar".
Now. The question is. How is the Government Controlled MSM in the USA walk out of this one?
Think the states may have been notified as the The Oklahoman reported that no soldiers from Oklahoma were killed or wounded.
Hasan acted alone. I can’t help but wonder when those hundreds of thousands get their cue.
Well, Well, Well. I knew this was going to come up, lets see if we ever hear about it again. “No indication of Terrorism” per the FBI normal denials.
"Akbar" means "the great" or "is great".
You and I agree as to the god of Islam's identity, though.
“Can someone tell me what Allah Akbar means?”
Please pass the health care bill (with public option)?
My daughters boyfriend just told her his pregnant cousin was one of our soldiers killed. No one had to die if he was stopped with all the warning flags that were there
HIT THE DECK!!!
I’ll respectfully disagree.
When I was active duty *koff* *koff* years ago, you KNEW it was your ass if you talked out of school.
The Army has a PAO, and that’s that.
There are any number of perfectly good reasons for this, most of which - oddly for me - I happen to agree with.
I will give props to KSL for not releasing the name, I just hope the station can stand up to pressure from the FedGov, should they choose to pursue the matter. And if they do, the station will no doubt tell us about that as well.
Then my FRiend, the Schumer will be in the fan.
Hey, this guy was just mentally unbalanced and didn’t want to leave this loving America. In short, this means that he is a muslim terrorist and hates America but that is not what the government and media will admit. Profiling not allowed. Letting citizens be killed is just collateral damage for protecting the image of muslims.
Please pass the health care bill (with public option)?
But no...this is not a terrorist..just a lone nut.
OMG Please give my condolences to the family. She was pregnant too..a double tragedy :( we all mourn with you
thank you
In that context, I can see that “god” may be the appropriate word after all. Kind of like the god of hell fire.
Ahhh (lah)... just like Ehrin Watada the traitor from Ft. Lewis who should have been shot but was made a leftist hero by the media.
First, it's absolutely horrible that a pregnant woman was killed, as if this horror needed anything more.
I'm hesitant to believe initial reports about any of these spree killers with respect to "warning flags". Having said that, if these reports are true, then there will be some people getting relieved of duty.
The UCMJ (military law) doesn't allow service men and women to make political statements, question command authority or to question the decisions of the Command-in-Chief. If reports are to be believed, this guy did all of that and more. There should have been an investigation, at a minimum. And, if the allegation proved to be with merit, there should have been disciplinary actions taken - which would mean a court-martial for an officer. The people who didn't report these statement are derelict in there duty, and if they were reported, then command has some explaining to do about why they weren't formally investigated and prosecuted.
My 3rd grader came home today, said he had a substitute teacher. He said the teacher is part Arabic and that he wrote hello and goodbye in Arabic on the chalk board, and my child was able to say it. Needless to say, I am going to have a chat that I am not sending my kid to school to learn Arabic. Am I over reacting?
Allah is not the God of Abraham.
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