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Honduras 1, Hillary 0
WSJ ^ | OCTOBER 31, 2009 | WSJ

Posted on 10/31/2009 10:54:34 AM PDT by opentalk

The big news in Honduras is that the good guys seem to have won a four-month political standoff over the exile of former President Manuel Zelaya. Current President Roberto Micheletti agreed yesterday to submit Mr. Zelaya's request for reinstatement as president to the Supreme Court and Congress, and in return the U.S. will withdraw its sanctions and recognize next month's presidential elections.

Mr. Zelaya, whose term would have expired in January, isn't likely to be reinstated, given that the court has twice ruled against his right to remain in office. The Honduran Congress, which voted in June to remove Mr. Zelaya, will then use that high court's opinion to decide if he should be restored to power.

There is a risk that Venezeula's Hugo Chávez and other Zelaya allies will try to buy support for their man and stir other trouble. But Hondurans who have rightly stood up to enormous U.S. pressure to reinstate Mr. Zelaya aren't likely to be intimidated now.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton trumpeted the result as a diplomatic triumph, but it's more accurate to say that it extricated her and the Obama Administration from the box canyon they entered by throwing in with Mr. Zelaya. Hondurans had deposed Mr. Zelaya on entirely legal grounds for threatening violence and violating the country's constitution in an attempt to run for a second term. The U.S. nonetheless meddled and demanded that Mr. Zelaya be reinstated.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: hillary; hillaryclinton; honduras; jimdemint; manuelzelaya; micheletti; porfiriolobo; statedepartment; zelaya
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1 posted on 10/31/2009 10:54:35 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Wrong headline. It’s Obama’s fail all the way.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 11:08:42 AM PDT by AU72
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To: opentalk

I certianly hope it turns out this way for the Hondurans. I don’t trust Obama or Shillery to not pull some other strong-arm tactic to get Zelaya back in power before his term was supposed to end.

I wouldn’t get too euphoric just yet. Remember just who and what is pulling the strings nowadays.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 11:15:47 AM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: opentalk

Send in Kerry (who fought in Vietnem) /sarc


4 posted on 10/31/2009 11:18:23 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: AU72

I agree, He showed his true colors on this. Still hope the State Department is required to release the legal opinion.


5 posted on 10/31/2009 11:20:11 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

It definitely should be Honduras 1, Zero 0.


6 posted on 10/31/2009 11:25:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: opentalk

I had understood that he was going to be reinstated as part of this deal. Couldn’t be happier to realize I was wrong.

Excellent!


7 posted on 10/31/2009 11:29:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: opentalk

“extricated”?

Hardly. It left sHrillery! and O’Bumbler looking tin-eared and flat-footed (I’m trying to be charitable here ;’}

...unless their ambition was to position themselves as enablers of dictators and tyrants, in which case they scored a perfect “A”...


8 posted on 10/31/2009 11:32:47 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: opentalk

What bullies these people are!

What an incredible sleezy slimey Bully this Administration is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To step on a democratic friend, when the entire country wanted to get rid of their dictator ..............

Maybe Big O and Axelrod and Emanuel just thought the Hondurans were setting a really bad precedent ................

Hey, now there’s something to think about.


9 posted on 10/31/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: opentalk

I think I need to buy a shirt with the Honduran flag.
Aren’t they a great symbol of standing up against tyranny?

All the world government agencies trying to intimidate and force Honduras to collapse, and they stood strong.

And after Honduras, then who would they go after next?

The struggle continues, but this sure looks like a victory for now.


10 posted on 10/31/2009 11:35:28 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: opentalk

Do you have information on the original Honduran SC decision (the opinion and any split in the opinion) as well as what the original vote was in the Honduran Congress? If it was overwhelming then, this should work out, but if it was close all the Zelaya/Obama people would have to do is convert a few votes in those 2 bodies.


11 posted on 10/31/2009 11:42:09 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: opentalk

I don’t like it. It looks to me like the U.S. diplomats were able to browbeat and threaten Honduras enough to force them to “agree to reinstate” the would-be dictator. Yeah yeah they can slow-walk the whole process through January to make it moot, but the fact is that they weren’t able to tell the U.S. to STFU and mind its own business.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 12:07:23 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DoughtyOne
I had understood that he was going to be reinstated as part of this deal. Couldn’t be happier to realize I was wrong.

That's because almost all of the early reporting relied on sources in Zelaya's camp. They were trying to create reality by asserting it.

13 posted on 10/31/2009 12:10:23 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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Thanks. I thought I hadn’t paid close enough attention when reading the report. Good to know...


14 posted on 10/31/2009 12:19:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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The deal was reinstate Z IF Congress approved and of course that was not about to happen. Reinstatement of that clown for even one day would unleash a raft of retribution, IRS audits, enemies jailed, official position changes, etc. as well as further transfer of national wealth. I think what turned it for Hillary was Zelaya’s obvious insanity (Thank G-d). I saw this as an opportunity for her to depart from Zero and start her run against him but she lacks guts. Nothing like Bobby Kennedy going after LBJ. Bottoem line is Zero blinked, as he most often does against real tyrants.


15 posted on 10/31/2009 1:14:08 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: opentalk

Tough sh*t, you commie-loving RATS!


16 posted on 10/31/2009 1:14:54 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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This little side show really damages Latin American-USA relations and set them back many years. They were already bad enough. El Gringo is not regarded with much love, but with overwhelming suspicion and often hate. Obama pulled every rotten trick against this heretofore most loyal USA ally in the region (This is where we based the Contras operations against Nicaragua, which is possibly WHY Obama fought so hard to suppress and humiliate them.)


17 posted on 10/31/2009 1:21:53 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: opentalk; don-o; HonCitizen

Honduras Ping!


18 posted on 10/31/2009 1:49:06 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: opentalk

Another failed policy of the 0ba-Mao administration!


19 posted on 10/31/2009 2:03:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Democracy sucks!)
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To: jazusamo; HonCitizen; Girlene; livius; stephenjohnbanker; Son House; ABQHispConservative; ...
Honduras ping

Freepmail me to be added to / removed from Honduras ping list.
Please ping me to threads of interest.
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20 posted on 10/31/2009 2:33:17 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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