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White House: 650,000 jobs in new stimulus report
Associated Press ^ | 10/30/2009 | MATT APUZZO and BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE

Posted on 10/30/2009 7:06:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON — More than 650,000 jobs have been saved or created under President Barack Obama's economic stimulus plan, the White House said Friday, saying it is on track to reach the president's goal of 3.5 million jobs by the end of next year.

New job numbers from businesses, contractors, state and local governments, nonprofit groups and universities were not scheduled to be released publicly until Friday afternoon. But White House economic adviser Jared Bernstein says officials have been told the figures. When adding in jobs linked to $288 billion in tax cuts, Bernstein says the stimulus plan has created or saved more than 1 million jobs.

The data will be posted on recovery.gov, the web site of the independent panel overseeing stimulus spending.

"It's a great example of the unprecedented transparency, where the American taxpayer can point and click and see their taxes creating jobs," Bernstein said.

Government recovery plans — everything from the $787 billion stimulus to tax credits for buying new homes to government deals on new cars — are credited with helping the economy grow again after a record four straight losing quarters.

But the job market has yet to show signs of recovery, putting pressure on the White House to show that the stimulus was worth its hefty price tag.

When it is released Friday, the new data will be the largest and most complete look at how the stimulus has been spent so far. The White House promised the data would be far more reliable than the first batch of numbers on federal contracts, which the administration initially embraced, then branded a "test run" after thousands of errors were discovered.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; porkulus; stimulus; unemployment; yobs; youlie

1 posted on 10/30/2009 7:06:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Do you SMELL what BARACK is cooking??


2 posted on 10/30/2009 7:07:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
See also here

TITLE:

Stimulus creates 650,000 jobs : White House releases first broad look at stimulus-funded employment, focusing on $150 billion in spending.
3 posted on 10/30/2009 7:08:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is like answering how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

There is simply no way to prove this. They made the assertion, so the burden of proof is theirs.

Geesh.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 7:08:38 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“saved or created”

That’s pretty detailed proof they’re putting out there, huh?


5 posted on 10/30/2009 7:08:56 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Faux News" to "Foe News"..."they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Ghandi)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe Wilson was right.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 7:10:23 AM PDT by manic4organic (Obama shot hoops, America lost troops.)
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To: RexBeach

7 posted on 10/30/2009 7:10:43 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Faux News" to "Foe News"..."they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Ghandi)
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To: SeekAndFind

isn’t this like a million dollars per job? or am I missing a decimal point here?


8 posted on 10/30/2009 7:11:56 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: jessduntno
This article explains the jobs figures better.

Deep Flaws In Stimulus Package Report: The Tale Of 30,000 Missing Jobs

The $787 billion economic stimulus package is meant to save or create 3.5 million jobs. That goal may be much less important than it was when the package was first approved by Congress. Unemployment will go over 10% later this year and could average that though 2010. The stimulus package cannot come even close to plugging that hole.

The Administration is fond of putting out reports and making statements about how well the $787 billion investment is working. It is now clear that some of that was based on false data.

The AP did an exclusive study of documents related to stimulus job creation and found that the Adminstration’s count is shy by at least 30,000 workers. The research found that “some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two and sometimes more than four times.”

The news is likely to blow a hole in the government’s credibility and to raise, once again, the wisdom of a huge federal program meant to “create” jobs. There are other reports about stimulus employment gains coming to the administration in the next several weeks. The head count from those could also be inflated, which may push the miscounting of added jobs closer to 100,000.

The White House is back in Congress asking for more stimulus cash. Some of it is in the form of a $250 payment to 52 million older Americans and people with disabilities. Another seeks to extend the first time home buyer credit. Each of these has a price tag well into the billions of dollars.

A 30,000 job count mistake is big enough to cause an outcry among stimulus spending opponents just as efforts to expand the programs becomes a more essential part of the White House plans to keep the economy from a second dip into recession.

Douglas A. McIntyre
9 posted on 10/30/2009 7:13:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: jessduntno

It is all total crap.


10 posted on 10/30/2009 7:16:57 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why not say they saved all the jobs in the United States. They need to explain what jobs were saved. That's a ridiculous statement as far as I'm concerned. Or, maybe I am just confused but I don't get it.
11 posted on 10/30/2009 7:18:05 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Buckeye McFrog

AP (cough) Bullsh@t (cough). Thats better :)


12 posted on 10/30/2009 7:20:31 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Africanized RAT meat. This is a bunch of bunk! Ask those of us looking for work. There is no huge job creation taking place anywhere.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 7:21:18 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO..........)
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To: SeekAndFind

thanks- Hannity talked about this yesterday- the AP article needs to be faxed/e-mailed everywhere....


14 posted on 10/30/2009 7:29:18 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmmmm...

$150,000,000,000/650,000 = $230,769 per job.

Not bad!

15 posted on 10/30/2009 7:37:19 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

saved my ass.


16 posted on 10/30/2009 7:37:49 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: SeekAndFind

All UNION jobs.


17 posted on 10/30/2009 7:38:12 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ($$$$$OBAMA MONEY!!!$$$$$ /s)
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To: harpu

their street cred on this lie is not working.


18 posted on 10/30/2009 7:38:34 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: SeekAndFind

I want the names of just 65 of 650,000 and positons they have been hired to and proof they were the result of the stimulus.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 7:42:18 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: harpu

$150,000,000,000/$60,000 = 2,500,000

If he had DIRECTLY given each jobless person $60,000 ( Greater than the national per capita income average), 2.5 Million people would have enough to live on for over a year (WITHOUT WORKING).

Someone ought to tell Obama (the redistributionist) that this is one way to win votes.


20 posted on 10/30/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind
Barbra Striesand
21 posted on 10/30/2009 7:45:39 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind
OBOZO LIES
22 posted on 10/30/2009 7:46:19 AM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (FUBO!))
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To: SeekAndFind
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23 posted on 10/30/2009 7:52:01 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is pure invention on the part of the Obama administration. It reminds me of Joesph Goebbels telling the German people that they were attacked by Poland. We are seeing the propaganda machine in full force, and notice that he MSM is the agent for this misinformation. We no longer have one Goebbels in America, but we have entire news agencies as propagandists. We are living in dark days.
24 posted on 10/30/2009 7:52:21 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah! Hooray!--All are govt, union jobs created to repay loyal Obamists and fool the public with the numbers.

Color me cynical.

vaudine

25 posted on 10/30/2009 7:53:52 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: jessduntno

LOL!!!


26 posted on 10/30/2009 7:59:46 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Do you SMELL what BARACK is cooking??

Well, it is Oct. 30th so I suspect it may be


27 posted on 10/30/2009 8:04:01 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO [the LIAR] has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: Bitsy
They need to explain what jobs were saved.

Remember when 0 told the Catapillar employees their jobs would be returning? Well, they came back - Oh wait, the factory shut down.

Never mind.

28 posted on 10/30/2009 8:07:15 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO [the LIAR] has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another White House P.R. fax ripped straight out the machine and dutifully published without skepticism by the AP.


29 posted on 10/30/2009 8:07:17 AM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

Being it has been proven that the WH has blatantly manipulated job creation/saved numbers before, I call serious BS on these ‘new’ numbers....serious BS.


30 posted on 10/30/2009 8:08:59 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Arrowhead1952

Voodoo doodoo economics.


31 posted on 10/30/2009 8:30:17 AM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Reporter: Mr. Gibbs, where did the administration get this number from?

Mr. Gibbs: I'm sorry but that is classified information.

Reporter: The President pulled it out of Rahm's arse, didn't he?

Mr. Gibbs: Next question.

32 posted on 10/30/2009 8:35:50 AM PDT by houeto (I peered inside the Treasury's door and alas, the entire vault was empty. We've been robbed!)
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To: budwiesest

Well since tomorrow is halloween, I was thinking witches brew.


33 posted on 10/30/2009 8:44:31 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO [the LIAR] has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama’s “Create or Save” Jobs Farce

Do the Obama numbers have any basis in reality? Barely. Again from the AP:

Most of the numbers being tossed around, including the 900 figure Obama cited, come from a transportation formula estimating the number of jobs “supported” by government spending. It doesn’t count new or saved jobs, and the Transportation Department has cautioned against applying the formula to the stimulus.

But even those DOT numbers are highly suspect. Heritage analyst Ron Utt explains:

As this paper demonstrates, most of the alleged economic benefits are based on grossly exaggerated claims made by a U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT) computer simulation conducted in 2000 and 2002. In fact, the vast majority of independent academic and federal government studies on the rela­tionship between infrastructure spending and eco­nomic activity have found that the impact is very modest and long in coming.

http://tinyurl.com/yaeefb3


34 posted on 10/30/2009 8:53:28 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

JUNE 10, 2009

The Media Fall for Phony ‘Jobs’ Claims The Obama Numbers Are Pure Fiction.

Mr. Fratto in the Bush administration

Mr. Fratto sees a double standard at play. “We would never have used a formula like ‘save or create,’” he tells me. “To begin with, the number is pure fiction — the administration has no way to measure how many jobs are actually being ‘saved.’ And if we had tried to use something this flimsy, the press would never have let us get away with it.”

Of course, the inability to measure Mr. Obama’s jobs formula is part of its attraction. Never mind that no one — not the Labor Department, not the Treasury, not the Bureau of Labor Statistics — actually measures “jobs saved.” As the New York Times delicately reports, Mr. Obama’s jobs claims are “based on macroeconomic estimates, not an actual counting of jobs.” Nice work if you can get away with it.

And get away with it he has. However dubious it may be as an economic measure, as a political formula “save or create” allows the president to invoke numbers that convey an illusion of precision. Harvard economist and former Bush economic adviser Greg Mankiw calls it a “non-measurable metric.” And on his blog, he acknowledges the political attraction.

http://tinyurl.com/y8npap8


35 posted on 10/30/2009 8:56:52 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

And they sent poor ‘ole Biden out there to bring this news to the world. LOL. What a joke.


36 posted on 10/30/2009 1:25:03 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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