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BERKELEY: City Council Says No to Drone Attacks in Afghanistan
Berkeley Daily Planet ^ | 10/29/9 | Riya Bhattacharjee

Posted on 10/29/2009 12:40:12 PM PDT by SmithL

Berkeley once again dipped into U.S. foreign policy Tuesday when its City Council unanimously passed a resolution asking the Obama administration to withdraw troops and private armed contractors from Afghanistan and cease drone attacks on Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The issue proved to be the liveliest of the evening, with members of the public protesting when councilmembers Susan Wengraf and Linda Maio suggested postponing the item to correct ambiguous wording in the resolution.

Code Pink, CopWatch and Berkeley’s Peace and Justice Commission, which recommended the resolution to the council, voiced their support for immediate troop withdrawal.

Melody Ermachild Chavis, author of Meena, Heroine of Afghanistan: The Martyr Who Founded RAWA, the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan, said that Afghanistan’s perception of the United States had taken a turn for the worse since the U.S. occupied Afghanistan in 2001.

“Afghanistan was welcoming us before—if only everything had been different,” she said. “It’s heartbreaking to say that that U.S. contribution in Afghanistan has been negative. We have bombed weddings, the children playing along the banks every day for eight years. If there are three things I could tell President Obama, it would be stop killing Afghanis, stop killing Afghanis, stop killing Afghanis.”

Code Pink’s Zanne Joi said it was important for Berkeley to step up because it was the “anti-war voice for the nation.”

“We are the peace voice for the nation,” she said. “There’s nothing we are doing in Afghanistan that’s moral.”

Peace and Justice commissioner Bob Meola, who wrote the agenda item, said that if the council didn’t pass it Tuesday, it might be too late.

“We can quibble over the wordsmithing, but I believe the train will leave the station,” agreed Councilmember Max Anderson. “We will miss an opportunity to weigh in on this if we leave foreign policy to others. We have troops in 140 countries around the world and presidents taking part in war crimes. Yes, we ought to get out of there rapidly, even if you think we are fighting the Taliban, even if you think we are fighting al Qaeda or propping up Pakistan. This is not the way to do it.”

The council’s resolution also supports a bill by U.S. Rep Barbara Lee (D-Oakland), which seeks to cease funding of the war in Afghanistan and calls for an exit strategy and withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country.

“Congresswoman Lee has a very good strategy—no more troops, no more money,” Councilmember Gordon Wozniak said. “Rather than us telling the president how he should do his job, we should just tell him not to expand the war.”

Councilmember Kriss Worthington said that Berkeley’s resolution was not meant to be a slap at Lee or Obama.

“Having a resolution like this will make it easier for her (Lee) to negotiate,” he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: berkeley; beserkeley; drone; psychosis; yourtaxdollarsatwork
More from Beserkeley's Politburo: http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2009-10-29/article/33998?headline=City-Council-Says-No-to-Drone-Attacks-in-Afghanistan
1 posted on 10/29/2009 12:40:14 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
It's not that the Berkely council is part of any anti-war voice ~ rather, they are on the side of those who wish to kill me, kill my family, kill my neighbors, and wipe out my part of America.

That makes them THE ENEMY.

Eventually we need to get a government in place that will mount a defense against these pukes.

2 posted on 10/29/2009 12:42:12 PM PDT by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: SmithL

I’ll never forget the day back in the 80’s when the great city of Cotati declared itself a “nuclear-free zone.”

Find Cotati on the map. If you can. Hint: it’s in Sonoma County.


3 posted on 10/29/2009 12:42:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: SmithL
Delusions of relevance.
4 posted on 10/29/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: SmithL

“City Council Says No to Drone Attacks in Afghanistan”

“I’ll bet anyone withing 20 feet of them would be happy if they’d say YES to some hot water, soap and a towel.


5 posted on 10/29/2009 12:43:05 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: SmithL

Huh. I didn’t know berkekey was flying drones in Afganistan.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 12:43:20 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SmithL

When did Berkely get so stupid?


7 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:19 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SmithL

Berkeley City Council is crazy, but should we really be sending out drones to kill people, or is that Unamerican?


8 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SmithL

In Berkely, CA it’s always 1969.


9 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:39 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: SmithL

goodnesswins says .... NO to military protection of Berkeley....in any way, shape or form.


10 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:55 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: SmithL

I hope Obama takes their advice.

He should definitely take his marching orders from Code Pink and the lunatics at Berkley.


11 posted on 10/29/2009 12:45:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: SmithL

Was the vote before or after they pass the bong and mushrooms around? ;-)


12 posted on 10/29/2009 12:45:16 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: SmithL

Just get back to fixing Berkely potholes you jackasses!


13 posted on 10/29/2009 12:45:34 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SmithL

Berkeley has a say in this? Or is it just political showmanshipm?


14 posted on 10/29/2009 12:47:05 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: SmithL

I agree with them, save those drones for SF and berkley.


15 posted on 10/29/2009 12:50:30 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: SmithL

Do terrorists know they’re welcome in Berkley?


16 posted on 10/29/2009 12:51:25 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SmithL

It’s nice to know that Berkeley has handled all the regular problems that cities have such as school maintenance, pot hole repair, traffic control, utilities, etc., so they have time to get involved in strategic and tactical war fighting.


17 posted on 10/29/2009 12:51:43 PM PDT by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: SmithL

Yeah, pull’em the hell out. Leave’em to their own devices.


18 posted on 10/29/2009 12:52:42 PM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: livius

What’s hard to find about Cotati? Googling the name brings you right to it. Other than likely being full of libs, is there something special about the place?


19 posted on 10/29/2009 12:52:47 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: SmithL

Wow. This will make a difference in US war policy. //sarc//


20 posted on 10/29/2009 12:53:36 PM PDT by BAW (I support Doug Hoffman)
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To: muawiyah
The Secret to the Suicidal Liberal Mind
21 posted on 10/29/2009 12:54:40 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: BertWheeler

IT’s just that same disgusting spirit that used to cheer the viet cong on and wave commie flags around. I think that it should be the responsibility of every good citizen, upon proper opportunity, to do them harm, and to do all of their true believers harm.


22 posted on 10/29/2009 12:54:45 PM PDT by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: nickcarraway
[S]hould we really be sending out drones to kill people, or is that Unamerican?
23 posted on 10/29/2009 12:55:07 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Bobkk47
In Berkely, CA it’s always 1969.

More like 1967. Summer of Love and all that rot. I actually lived very near there during the 1960s. It wasn't pretty.

24 posted on 10/29/2009 12:56:20 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Malsua

It’s a tiny hole near Sonoma State College - or maybe the college is actually located there - I don’t recall. There’s nothing special about it, I simply meant that these nutty places in CA have been making grandiose political “statements” for decades.


25 posted on 10/29/2009 12:56:48 PM PDT by livius
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To: SmithL

Good thing they’re not in charge!

BTW, WHO asked them???


26 posted on 10/29/2009 12:57:45 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: SmithL
“We can quibble over the wordsmithing, but I believe the train will leave the station,” agreed Councilmember Max Anderson. “We will miss an opportunity to weigh in on this if we leave foreign policy to others.

Yeah, I guess your collective radical credentials are at stake over this one, no doubt about it.

Councilmember Anderson, I hope you won't be offended if I call you Councilman... did you ever even look at your job description? Did you notice it said "City Council" and not "Council on Foreign Relations"?

The sense of self-importance among these ivory-tower loons is a source of constant amusement and horror...

27 posted on 10/29/2009 12:58:10 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: muawiyah

I agree: bring the troops home; invade Berkeley and liberate it instead.


28 posted on 10/29/2009 12:58:23 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: SmithL

Loonie Tunes Lives..


29 posted on 10/29/2009 12:58:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: The_Victor
Delusions of relevance.

Well said. Unbridled narcissism.
30 posted on 10/29/2009 12:58:27 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: SmithL

The extreme leftists in Berkley are having a difficult time demonizing the war while trying to suck Barack’s skinny ass.


31 posted on 10/29/2009 12:58:59 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: livius
There’s nothing special about it, I simply meant that these nutty places in CA have been making grandiose political “statements” for decades.

Ah, ok. I understand. If not for their assinine statements no one will have ever heard of these places except the people that live within a few miles of it.

Bezerkly being an exception due to being completely overrun. The west coast center for all things left. The city runs entirely powered by their own smug self satisfaction.

32 posted on 10/29/2009 1:00:09 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: livius
Aah, Cotati, "The Hub of Sonoma County", home of "keep Cotati Weird" bumper stickers...


...and this guy.

33 posted on 10/29/2009 1:00:40 PM PDT by BlueDragon (there is no such thing as a "true" compass, all are subject to bo th variation & deviation)
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To: SmithL
As a person who dose not live in Berkeley and has legal no voice about what happens in Berkeley take it upon myself to declare a request for a vote my Freepers declaring the Berkeley City council as a whole devoid of the scene that God gave earthworms. This proclamation is not in anyway to insult or deride Bishop Berkeley, who was an Anglo-Irish philosopher and the city’s namesake.
34 posted on 10/29/2009 1:01:03 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I don't have time to Procrastinate)
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To: Vision

Does it really matter if you get zipped by a drone versus a human? Do they object to the impersonal and unfriendly aspect of war? Wow. How do they feel about mortars and machineguns, is this more to their liking? Inquiring minds want to know.


35 posted on 10/29/2009 1:05:37 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: SmithL

When will the Bezerkeley City Council get it over with and secede from the US?


36 posted on 10/29/2009 1:11:14 PM PDT by 24-7Freeper
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To: SmithL

How did we make it through WWII without the adice and consent of the Berkeley City Council?


37 posted on 10/29/2009 1:11:40 PM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: Admin Moderator

So why is this a national news item and not local news/chat?


38 posted on 10/29/2009 1:15:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: SmithL

I’ll go along with a suspension of drone attacks in Afghanistan on two conditons:[1] Only until Il Douche makes up his mind, or twoweeks [whichever is left], and [2] During that period, we unload the ordnance of every drone we have on Berkeley and San Fran.


39 posted on 10/29/2009 1:17:33 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SmithL
“We are the peace idiot voice for the nation,”

There, fixed it for her.
40 posted on 10/29/2009 1:26:20 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Disambiguator

41 posted on 10/29/2009 1:32:26 PM PDT by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: SmithL

I can only imagine how offended I would be if I gave a RAT’S PETUTY what Berkley had to say about foreign policy.


42 posted on 10/29/2009 1:48:43 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (><BCC>NRA)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

It’s not about that, it’s about making themselves feel important.


43 posted on 10/29/2009 2:44:07 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: SmithL

Far-left liberal Mecca.

I thought I saw Pelosi and a few others bowing down to pray in its direction today.....


44 posted on 10/29/2009 3:14:27 PM PDT by cranked
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To: andy58-in-nh

I agree, too. Let’s stop using drones in Afghanistan for a while and use a few in Berkeley, instead. Nothing drastic, just a little target practice on unoccupied buildings, so we can see if they really work.


45 posted on 10/29/2009 3:27:08 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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