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UN investigator warns US on use of drones (targeted executions may violate international law)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 10/27/09 | Edith M. Lederer - ap

Posted on 10/27/2009 7:53:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

UNITED NATIONS – A U.N. human rights investigator warned the United States Tuesday that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate international law.

Philip Alston said that unless the Obama administration explains the legal basis for targeting particular individuals and the measures it is taking to comply with international humanitarian law which prohibits arbitrary executions, "it will increasingly be perceived as carrying out indiscriminate killings in violation of international law."

Alston, the U.N. Human Rights Council's investigator on extrajudicial, summary and arbitrary executions, raised the issue of U.S. Predator drones in a report to the General Assembly's human rights committee and at a news conference afterwards, saying he has become increasingly concerned at the dramatic increase in their use, especially in Afghanistan and Pakistan, since June.

He said the U.S. response — that the Geneva-based council and the General Assembly have no role in relation to killings during an armed conflict — "is simply untenable."

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1 posted on 10/27/2009 7:53:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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the U.S. response — that the Geneva-based council and the General Assembly have no role in relation to killings during an armed conflict — “is simply untenable.”

Hey, UN Human Rights Guy.. Shove it!


2 posted on 10/27/2009 7:55:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

Recommended: bold-facing, all caps, sternly-worded letters....

OTHER METHODS OF UN RETALIATION, ANYONE?


3 posted on 10/27/2009 7:55:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: NormsRevenge

Those who fight wars with slavish devotion to the rules are bound to fail.

-US Grant


4 posted on 10/27/2009 7:58:52 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: NormsRevenge

What’s that guys coordinates?


5 posted on 10/27/2009 7:59:00 PM PDT by rsobin
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Predator UAV carrying an Hellfire-C laser-guided missile.

6 posted on 10/27/2009 7:59:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

Got it: manned aircraft used to mass-murder non-combatants is OK.


7 posted on 10/27/2009 7:59:32 PM PDT by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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Alston is a Professor of law at NYU or was.


8 posted on 10/27/2009 8:00:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't know where to begin...

At least GW would have said "Phillip who? Tell him to go pound sand">

"commander zero" may well take this very "seriesly".

9 posted on 10/27/2009 8:01:35 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, yes, please. Let’s continue to send in our brightest young men on parole to get shot at like sitting ducks rather than a drone that might kill a Taliban.


10 posted on 10/27/2009 8:01:35 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: NormsRevenge

What hogwash, they are not unmanned they are remotely
piloted, no different from any other weapons platform.


11 posted on 10/27/2009 8:01:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey UN, who’s gonna stop us?


12 posted on 10/27/2009 8:02:08 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: NormsRevenge

U.N. tries to undermine U.S. war effort. And this is something new?


13 posted on 10/27/2009 8:02:37 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Did he happen to mention anything about randomly targeting civilians and suicide bombings? No? Hmmm... strange...


14 posted on 10/27/2009 8:03:52 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: NormsRevenge; Salamander; Markos33
" A U.N. human rights investigator warned the United States Tuesday that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate international law."

Gee, sounds like it's time to use the old saw:

"KILL 'EM ALL - LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT."
15 posted on 10/27/2009 8:04:24 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Fly one by his window every once in a while and really mess with his mind. Do we have one that hovers?


16 posted on 10/27/2009 8:04:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the GOP infuriates me.")
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To: rsobin

“What’s that guys coordinates?”

Lol... I was thinking along the same lines.


17 posted on 10/27/2009 8:05:08 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NormsRevenge

Obama: “Oh! Okay”.


18 posted on 10/27/2009 8:05:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A U.N. human rights investigator warned the United States Tuesday that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate international law.

This is simply laughable. We are fighting a war with people who strap bombs to their body and blow up children. And the UN wants to lecture us about "international la". Give me a break.

19 posted on 10/27/2009 8:06:01 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Exton1

“Hey UN, who’s gonna stop us?”

Zero?


20 posted on 10/27/2009 8:06:27 PM PDT by elpinta (Change: check. Hope: not so much.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn’t this essentially what snipers do?


21 posted on 10/27/2009 8:06:30 PM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: NormsRevenge

However, beheadings and bombs strapped to children are quite alright.


22 posted on 10/27/2009 8:08:39 PM PDT by Waryone (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: InterceptPoint

Obama will use this as justification for just grabbing our toys, leaving, and blaming it all on Bush.

This announcement was probably done in coordination with the White House


23 posted on 10/27/2009 8:09:54 PM PDT by digger48
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To: NormsRevenge

Does this mean it is illegal for US Soldiers to aim their guns before they fire?


24 posted on 10/27/2009 8:13:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: NonValueAdded
"Do we have one that hovers?"

Oh, yeah. The MQ-8 Fire Scout


25 posted on 10/27/2009 8:13:59 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: digger48

BINGO...we have a winner!


26 posted on 10/27/2009 8:15:31 PM PDT by Crim
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To: Vendome; NormsRevenge
Alston's warning comes as President Barack Obama is weighing how to overhaul the U.S. approach to the Afghan conflict.

These representatives of Depotic Regimes have judged Obama to be a weak leader.

They are testing him. They are guessing that by merely suggesting that our methods are illegal that Obama will forbid their use.

I am guessing that they are correct.

27 posted on 10/27/2009 8:16:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh no! Hope they don’t bring sanctions against us.


28 posted on 10/27/2009 8:19:11 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Pontiac; NormsRevenge

Nobel Peace Laureate.

Congratulations Mr. Obama.


29 posted on 10/27/2009 8:19:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: shibumi; NormsRevenge
A U.N. human rights investigator warned the United States... HA!

I think it's time that we had hay in this barn...


30 posted on 10/27/2009 8:22:40 PM PDT by Markos33 (Never shoot a man in the back. Just shoot him in the leg, he'll turn around.)
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What the UN is ignoring—and what Obama also often ignores—is that we are at war with Islamic terrorists. War is imposing your will on the enemy by force, not about taking him to court. The paradigm is all wrong.
31 posted on 10/27/2009 8:24:17 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: NormsRevenge

How many “U.N. & Drone” punchlines can YOU think of?


32 posted on 10/27/2009 8:25:34 PM PDT by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good point, how about we just start calling them exactly what they are, “Foreign Nations Association,” for they sure are not united, and for the longest time have violated their own charter, rules and policies, and have done everything possible to foment killing around the world for their own benefit. The usefulness, if there was ever any, has long passed. No American should have their labor or taxes be part of or sponsor to a group that has one thing in common, which is to stand idly by paying lip service to the concepts of life, inalienable rights and freedom…if this group is so wonderful, have them go outside the U.S. and do something to prove themselves; then get back to us with the results in 10 to 15 years.


33 posted on 10/27/2009 8:25:58 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: NormsRevenge
if the planes that hit NY hit the UN not the towers, prolly nobody would of said a thing
34 posted on 10/27/2009 8:28:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The U.N. can go to hell.


35 posted on 10/27/2009 8:29:47 PM PDT by Merlinator (Take them all down...one czar at a time FUBO)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hey Phillip...


36 posted on 10/27/2009 8:31:14 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Bullsh*t)
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To: NormsRevenge

Suicide bombings and slaughter of civilians are okay I suppose?


37 posted on 10/27/2009 8:37:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: NormsRevenge
He is the one wearing yellow.


38 posted on 10/27/2009 8:39:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (10+ million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Markos33

I want a photo shop of a jet liner crashing into the UN.
Maybe THAT would get their attention.


39 posted on 10/27/2009 8:42:17 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Don Corleone to U.N. F. Off!


40 posted on 10/27/2009 8:42:23 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: NormsRevenge
Targeted eh?

Fine. We'll deliberately aim wide of the target by a few feet. It's not our fault if the muzzie runs inside the warheads splash radius...

Frigging morons at the UN need to be on the receiving end of a few hellfire missiles... after a MOAB or twenty is dropped on that hive of scum and villainy.

I'd dearly love to see that whole place turned into a smoking hole in the ground with it entire load of filth inside at the time.

41 posted on 10/27/2009 8:43:19 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Professor Philip Alston


42 posted on 10/27/2009 8:43:42 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: NormsRevenge

My, my, we’re being told all kinds of things by the UN, aren’t we.


43 posted on 10/27/2009 8:46:44 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: NormsRevenge
Predators over the UN Building is a fine alternate use.
44 posted on 10/27/2009 8:49:53 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: tet68
"What hogwash, they are not unmanned they are remotely piloted, no different from any other weapons platform."

This conjures up the image of a 17 year old kid complete with lollipop hanging out the side of his mouth being summoned to appear before a UN High crimes tribunal.

Bad Dream! Say it isn't so.

45 posted on 10/27/2009 8:51:32 PM PDT by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: NurdlyPeon
U.N. tries to undermine U.S. war effort.

As if Obama needed their help. Amateurs.

46 posted on 10/27/2009 8:53:02 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; MestaMachine; Saoirise; mojitojoe

9/10/09

“U.N. LAWYERS TARGET U.S. TROOPS”

“Justice: As if fighting a war in Afghanistan isn’t hard enough, ambitious global prosecutors have rolled into Kabul looking to charge U.S. troops. Intentional or not, such legalism will sap U.S. morale as it did in Vietnam.

At about the time NATO’s new secretary-general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, warned NATO’s European members against an early pullout, Luis Moreno-Ocampo, the top prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, whose body is charged with looking for international war criminals, announced he was looking for new “clients” from anyone with a grievance in Afghanistan.

At a briefing Wednesday in The Hague, Moreno-Ocampo said he had launched a new war crimes inquiry..,

Oh, he’d been evenhanded in his Monday-morning battlefield quarterbacking of course, promising he’d prosecute both Taliban and NATO troops as moral equals...”

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=505775

9/08/09

“Obama to seal US-UN relationship”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2334897/posts


47 posted on 10/27/2009 8:53:09 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("Permission to engage the enemy Sir! " " Permission denied." (Under CIC Obamao.))
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To: NormsRevenge
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48 posted on 10/27/2009 8:54:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: elpinta

Hasta La Vista, I’ll be back, Bonzai!


49 posted on 10/27/2009 8:55:42 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Phil! Who enforces YOUR “international law”? Your sissy boys in the baby blue helmets? ROTFLMAO!!! Take a hike!


50 posted on 10/27/2009 8:56:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DUDE! Where's MY Nobel Peace Prize?)
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