GOP officials: We won't abandon Dede

By this measure, the Republicans are a huge disappointment. My GOP member of Congress, who isn't that bad on the voting front, believes that the Commerce Clause authorizes the Federal Government to do basically anything it wants to do. I've asked him what it prohibits the Federal Government from doing and he wouldn't or couldn't say.

Ultimately, I am with Rush. Third party's are losers. The Dems saw their party morph into a Maoist movement under the pressure of a longterm effort to push the party in that direction. I am sure this isn't what Dems wanted.

The Republican party has been attempting to respond to the damage done by the Liberal/Progressive movement on the minds of the young by attempting to accept the frame that Political Correctness has created, but Americans generally (at least the 40+ somethings) remember world before PC and this was a world that was so much more free for Americans. Where we couldn't understand how people could live monitoring their every thought under Communism.

The Tea Party movement is as much about throwing off these shackles as preventing the destruction of the America we knew through unpayable debt and oppressive regulation. I know and many others know, that the Republican party is what we make it, but part of that is this battle between Democrat lite and defining something else.

A party is made of its members and what they are willing to do, and for the last several years the Republican party has been on its last legs needing paid professionals to function in the lowest local functionary positions because the generation that filled these places was literally dying off. The Tea Party movement is claiming these positions.

Karl Rove sought to replace the old generation of Blue Dog Democrats to retain a working majority in the House and Senate, but this moved the Democrats in both of those bodies closer together and farther to the left. The Tea Party movement understands that both Democrats and Republicans yearn for an America that provides and protects freedom so there are Democrats that are of a like mind also finding and taking some of the low level party positions.

Obama, has been more transparent than his crew would have liked and this has been a blessing for the American people.

In 2008, in OH 15, it was Stivers-R vs. Kilroy-D. Stivers won on election night, Kilroy won after a dubious recount. A third party right to life candidate pulled 4 percent and the Libertarian pulled 4 percent. from cqpolitics "Kilroy erased a Stivers lead that stood at 149 votes after the Nov. 4 count and at 594 votes after Madison and Union certified their totals late last month. The 2,311 vote difference between Kilroy and Stivers was much smaller than the vote totals that accrued to the other two candidates in the race — Libertarian Mark Michael Noble, who received 14,061 votes (4.6 percent), and independent Don Eckhart, who received 12,915 votes (4.2 percent). In 2010, we will be running Stivers again. It is not insanity because we should easily win this time. And if anything is insanity, it is third party candidates. Their winning percentage must be less than one in a thousand. That is what I call insanity.

Rush was making this point today.

You have to understand that NY23 is not about trying to create a third party but instead attempting to stop the need for one.

It is about forcing the National Republican apparatus to understand that for now, only patriots and folks who "get it" are going to get elected.

Stivers is a great candidate and his loss to Kilroy was a blow in the gut. But, the routes of 2006 and 2008 were about folks being sick of the Gang of 14 where the world is a 50/50 split and the one RINO left or the one DINO right makes all of the decisions. People start to believe their vote doesn't count. Minority parties have been around forever, they are only trouble when the electorate doesn't have a clue which bunch they hate less.

Why NY23?, I am sure that Napoleon was thinking, why here? Why Waterloo? And by the way, who put that ditch in the middle of the battle field? gees.

Sometimes, we just don't get to pick, but this is the place and the time when folks decided it was where they were going to turn and attack with everything.

The outcome of Waterloo was already pretty much determined before the beginning of the battle, and so is this battle. Boehner as much as admitted it today. The NRCC will signal its acceptance by running against Owens rather than Hoffman.

In Ohio 2nd, the self proclaimed Conservative independent actually helped the Republican win because a large portion of the Democrat vote was actually aimed against her rather than for any Democrat which divided the Democrat vote more than the Republican. If Dede is only a 5% or 10% portion at this point, she may very well pin folks who would have swung to Owens in her absence.

It is never as simple as one might think at the first Jerk of the Knee.

At what point, do we try to replace the GOP? What's the tipping point for you? Just curious.

We were at that point. More or less, but wiser heads have pretty much prevailed. The Party is worried about a raft of 3rd party challengers.. and they need to work their way through it. But, the point is made, and wheat has been separated from chaff, and unfortunately Romney and Huckabee have been found wanting.

BTW, I'm not advocating Third Parties. I agree, let's take over the GOP and let RINOs just vote for us without influence. It'll be good for us and good for them.

You made me smile.

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