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Dallas Ticket for Not Speaking English Called a Rookie Mistake
Dallas News ^ | 10/23/2009 | Dallas News

Posted on 10/23/2009 10:44:02 AM PDT by Dallas59

A Dallas rookie police officer erred when he cited a woman earlier this month for being a non-English speaking driver, police said.

Officer Gary Bromley issued a citation Oct. 2 to 48-year-old Ernestina Mondragon after stopping her for making an illegal U-turn in the 500 block of Easton Road, near East Northwest Highway, according to a copy of the citation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amnesty; english; hispandering; immigrant; immigration; police

1 posted on 10/23/2009 10:44:05 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Me no speekee English... until she get’s home and laffs about fooling the gringo officer


2 posted on 10/23/2009 10:45:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (My biggest fear is that one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: Mr. K

3 posted on 10/23/2009 10:47:58 AM PDT by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Dallas59

LMAO!


4 posted on 10/23/2009 10:48:29 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Dallas59
"We ended up taking her to the [emergency room] because she was nervous; she was just stressing over the ticket."

She may not speak english, but she understands our litigation lottery system completely.

5 posted on 10/23/2009 10:49:08 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Dallas59

Immigrants strike another blow against the Rule of Law, which is of no interest to them, with the help of the City of Dallas. If she doesn’t speak English, what happens if she becomes involved in a dangerous traffic situation that necessitates following the orders of a policeman or other public safety worker? And of course it would never occur to the DMN to inquire about her immigration status. We are the only country on earth that puts the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of its citizens.


6 posted on 10/23/2009 10:51:01 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Poor Rookie...I bet that’s the last time he uses common sense.


7 posted on 10/23/2009 10:54:23 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Dallas59

“Say WHAT one more time...!”


8 posted on 10/23/2009 10:56:57 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: La Lydia

Immigrants strike another blow against the Rule of Law
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Are you suggesting that the cops can make up laws as they go? The ticket in question, failure to speak English, does not exist.

I don’t quarrel with the common sense elements of your post too much (understanding a cop’s instructions in an emergency), but how has this immigrant struck a blow against the rule of law?


9 posted on 10/23/2009 10:57:33 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Dallas59

Como es Marsellus Wallace fÌsicamente?
Que?
De que paÌs eres?
Que?
No lo conozco. Hablan ingles en “Que”?
Que?
Ingles, hijo de puta! Lo hablas?!


10 posted on 10/23/2009 11:00:55 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (Step 1: Expel half the party and write off huge chunks of the country. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit.)
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To: dmz

No. I am suggesting she was driving without her drivers’ license. That is against the law. You have to have your license when you are operating a vehicle, and she didn’t. The City of Dallas dismissed that ticket as well. I, personally, left my driver’s license at home one day by mistake, got a ticket, and had to pay a fine despite the fact that I had a license. This occurred in Dallas. I did have my insurance, for which they were doing a random check. But then again, I speak English.


11 posted on 10/23/2009 11:01:57 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: dmz; La Lydia

“I don’t quarrel with the common sense elements of your post too much (understanding a cop’s instructions in an emergency), but how has this immigrant struck a blow against the rule of law?”

By being here in the first place. To immigrate legally, one has to have a basic knowledge of the English language.


12 posted on 10/23/2009 11:02:17 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: La Lydia

Your implied policy would be a bit tough on non-anglophone tourists....


13 posted on 10/23/2009 11:17:50 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Tough. When I lived in Mexico, I spoke Spanish. And that woman wasn’t a tourist. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of Europeans do speak enough English to follow directions.


14 posted on 10/23/2009 11:20:06 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
"...We are the only country on earth that puts the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of its citizens..."

That is a great truth, and I lay the blame at the feet of our "leaders" who are merely opportunist political whores who would sell us out in a New York minute. Well, that minute is upon us. We've been sold out.

15 posted on 10/23/2009 11:22:42 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (As always, I apologize if I've offended.)
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To: Dallas59

If the ticket is truly for not speaking english, it must suck to be a foreign tourist then...

“Here’s your ticket, Hans. Get your butt back to Dusseldorf until you can sprechen english!”


16 posted on 10/23/2009 11:27:22 AM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: La Lydia
If she doesn’t speak English, what happens if she becomes involved in a dangerous traffic situation that necessitates following the orders of a policeman or other public safety worker? And of course it would never occur to the DMN to inquire about her immigration status. We are the only country on earth that puts the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of its citizens.

You are incorrect, if you are suggesting that other countries bar drivers that don't speak the language. I've personally legally driven in at least 3 countries where English isn't the language.

17 posted on 10/23/2009 11:29:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: La Lydia

That is correct. Never drive off without it! I left my DL at the bank drive thru once and had the misfortune of getting hit by a guy running a red light. It didn’t matter that I knew my DL#...they required the actual license. My case was dismissed because when I got to court (with my license, citation and accident report in hand), the court ticket showed that I ran the red light while driving without my license. I had all my documentation and the judge just wrote it off (or whatever they do to dismiss it). Lesson learned!


18 posted on 10/23/2009 11:32:14 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: PAR35

Where did I say that other countries bar drivers that don’t speak the language? We gave this woman a “get out of jail free” card. She was driving without her license, for which I have been ticketed in Dallas. What I said was, we are the only country on earth that puts the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of its citizens. And I stand by that statement.


19 posted on 10/23/2009 11:33:47 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: TNdandelion

I just paid my fine. If Dallas traffic court is anything like the DMV there, no one speaks English anyway.


20 posted on 10/23/2009 11:36:39 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

And most tourists, anglophone or otherwise, do not have children enrolled in the public schools.


21 posted on 10/23/2009 11:37:59 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

And if doofus cop had not cited her for failure to speak English, it is quite likely that charge would not have been dismissed. I don’t see anywhere in the article that the illegal u-turn charge was dropped.


22 posted on 10/23/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by dmz
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To: La Lydia

I’m a municipal court judge in one jurisdiction and a prosecutor in another. We routinely dismiss “no DL” citations if the defendant comes in and shows us that he/she had a valid DL on that date, whether it was in the car or not. You got a raw deal, IMHO.

Colonel, USAFR


23 posted on 10/23/2009 11:55:51 AM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: jagusafr

I didn’t get a raw deal. I left my DL at home. I went through a insurance card checkpoint (thank God I had that in the glove box), got a ticket and chose to pay it rather than go to traffic court in Dallas. But thanks for the kind words, Colonel.


24 posted on 10/23/2009 11:58:44 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: AuntB

By being here in the first place. To immigrate legally, one has to have a basic knowledge of the English language.
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The only place I can find the language requirement you speak of is when an immigrant wishes to be naturalized.

That being said, were I to choose to live in another country for any period of time, I would most certainly do my best to learn the language.


25 posted on 10/23/2009 12:14:53 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

Bagaimana kalau kami semua baru berbahasa Inggris saja. Oops. How about if we Americans just speak English.


26 posted on 10/23/2009 12:27:44 PM PDT by WesG (Without geometry, life is pointless.)
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To: La Lydia
Where did I say that other countries bar drivers that don’t speak the language?

Well, let me repost it again, dropping an intervening sentence:

If she doesn’t speak English, what happens if she becomes involved in a dangerous traffic situation that necessitates following the orders of a policeman or other public safety worker?...We are the only country on earth that puts the interests of foreigners ahead of the interests of its citizens. "

And to quote what you said in that post about driving without a license -- oops, no need to - there is nothing in that post about driving without a license.

27 posted on 10/23/2009 12:31:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: WesG

Bagaimana kalau kami semua baru berbahasa Inggris saja.
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Easy for you to say.


28 posted on 10/23/2009 12:43:23 PM PDT by dmz
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To: PAR35
1. She needs to speak English. Her ignorance of English is a danger to herself and others.

2. The ticket for driving without a license was dropped, as well as the "non-English speaker" ticket. No Rule of Law for her. She gets a free pass.

3. We are allowing people to come to our country, legally and illegally, and doing nothing to require their assimilation into our society, one element of which is the English language.

4. By allowing this invasion of non-assimilators, and taxing ourselves to accommodate them, we are putting their interests, that is, the interest of foreigners, ahead of the interest of our own citizens, some of whom are endangered/harmed by these foreigners.

5. There is a significant difference between allowing non-English speaking visitors to our country to drive using international drivers' licenses for a short period of time, and allowing foreigners who come here to live indefinitely, settle in, enroll their children in school, etc, but failing to insist they learn our language and accommodating their ignorance of our laws.

29 posted on 10/23/2009 12:48:06 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Dallas59

OK, who’s going to clean up the back seat of the car?


30 posted on 10/23/2009 12:56:48 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: dmz
Bagaimana kalau kami semua baru berbahasa Inggris saja. ______ Easy for you to say. ============================== That's Indonesian, just in case you are wondering. Lived there for over 25 years. Every person in Indonesia puts a high priority on learning English. Why can't those who get here, or sneak here (as the case may be), make it as much of a priority to assimilate and learn our language. It doesn't mean that we denigrate their language/culture (or origin), but, if ya come here to America to stay, learn our language, dammit.
31 posted on 10/23/2009 1:36:53 PM PDT by WesG (Without geometry, life is pointless.)
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Well we can thank the DMVs across the country when they are like Kalifornia who give their driver’s test in about 8 languages. Cop should have cited her for obstructing justice.


32 posted on 10/23/2009 3:17:06 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Waterboard Obama. See if he knows anything.)
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To: WesG

I don’t quarrel with that notion at all. and yes, I was wondering.


33 posted on 10/24/2009 6:31:58 AM PDT by dmz
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