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Blackburn (R-TN) Takes Swipe At Net Neutrality (the fairness doctrine for the Internet)
National Journal/Tech Daily Dose ^ | 10/20/09 | Andrew Noyes

Posted on 10/20/2009 1:51:47 PM PDT by Jean S

House Energy and Commerce Communications Subcommittee member Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., on Tuesday took a swipe at an ongoing push by the Obama administration and high-tech companies to beef up so-called network neutrality rules at the FCC, describing effort as "the fairness doctrine for the Internet." The Commission rescinded that doctrine, which required TV and radio broadcasters to air opposing political viewpoints, in 1987.

FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said in September that he does not intend to revive the fairness doctrine amid concerns raised by Republicans and conservative talk radio hosts. He is, however, championing a controversial plan to consider new rules aimed at preserving and promoting consumers' unfettered access to Web content. The FCC will begin its work on that topic Thursday.

Blackburn said her constituents, particularly business owners, fully understand the fairness doctrine and similarly reject the federal government's "policing of how people deploy their content over the Internet." "They want [Internet service providers] to be able to manage those networks. They want to make certain they have the ability to deploy content in a manner negotiated with ISPs," she told a high-tech briefing on Capitol Hill.

She went on to say that Web users "do not want a czar of the Internet" telling them how and when they are able to deploy content or what broadband speeds are available to them.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; censorshipdoctrine; donttreadonme; fairnessdoctrine; fcc; internet; internetczar; juliusgenachowski; liberalfascism; localism; localismdoctrine; marshablackburn; netneutrality; obama; talkradio

1 posted on 10/20/2009 1:51:48 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

The FCC is making a power grab for which they have no constitutional authority.


2 posted on 10/20/2009 1:54:14 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

3 posted on 10/20/2009 1:54:57 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ben Mugged
The FCC is making a power grab for which they have no constitutional authority.

WWGWD?

(What Would George Washington Do?)

4 posted on 10/20/2009 1:56:47 PM PDT by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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To: mnehring

Thank you for the link! You deserve credit for this find.


5 posted on 10/20/2009 2:01:13 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Democrats might very well ask themselves why it is that liberal thinking seems to always require protection and subsidies. Is it because nobody wants to buy their ideas? “Fairness”, to them, means the imposition of rules so that liberal-leftist views must be heard, even if no one is interested in them.


6 posted on 10/20/2009 2:05:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: Jean S

7 posted on 10/20/2009 2:06:31 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Jean S

NP, I have Blackburn on my alerts. If she makes a statement, it is usually pretty powerful or important.


8 posted on 10/20/2009 2:12:24 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ShadowAce; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Web users "do not want a czar of the Internet" telling them how and when they are able to deploy content or what broadband speeds are available to them.


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9 posted on 10/20/2009 2:13:12 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: popdonnelly
Democrats might very well ask themselves why it is that liberal thinking seems to always require protection and subsidies

In this case it's apparently at least one Republican who wants the content of the WWW controlled by free enterprise.

10 posted on 10/20/2009 2:13:39 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Jean S

It’s a federal level form of Nazi “Child Protective Services” which will push “fairness doctrine” in your household.

Out with the strong man inside, in comes the wolves.


11 posted on 10/20/2009 2:15:29 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Jean S

What happens when Rev. Al parks his goon squad outside Comcast HQ and refuses to leave until they blacklist the “racist” FR and outspoken conservative blogs?

Most large corporations, including ISPs, sign on to the PC agenda to keep the peace. They don’t have our backs here.


12 posted on 10/20/2009 2:19:23 PM PDT by bornred
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To: bornred

This is my thought too. I mean I try to work up my libertarian rage about this, but just can’t.

I realize in some respects some people should have to pay more if they are using more internet.

At the same time, doesn’t this also protect against ISP’s throttling access to certain sites?

Being that most people don’t have meaningful choice in ISPs it seems like a good idea to make sure that doesn’t happen.


13 posted on 10/20/2009 2:25:41 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Jean S
net neutrality - what a perversity of the English language this has become.

Having the ISPs & interconnect companies being neutral to the content that the paying subcribers to their services care to send or receive seems a simple enough concept.

But bending this to having the government make sure that the content is 'balanced' deserves both an IgNobel award for chutzpah and a swift smack to the cerebellum for stupidity.

I know you can't cure stupidity, but that swift smack might slow it down.

14 posted on 10/20/2009 2:42:47 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: slowhandluke

It is a damned if you do, damned if you dont scenario. I dont want nanny govt telling anyone what to do, especially business. At the same time, I dont want monopolizing behemoths like Bell charging me 50 bucks a month for 30 gigs of downloads. Or for that matter, At&t.

And no, I cant go anywhere else.

So here is hoping for the impossible..that govt actually lays the smackdown on the bastards at Bell for throttling, choking and capping my $50 connection, but actually does so without huring the end users.


15 posted on 10/20/2009 2:50:45 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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16 posted on 10/20/2009 2:53:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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17 posted on 10/20/2009 2:56:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Soothesayer9

Well, you got one thing right. You’re hoping for the impossible by asking govt to cure the problem. Consider this, with govt funding access they can also control content since the net would then be a public trust. You’ll be much better off being pissed at those bastards at AT&T choking off and capping your $50 connection than having the govt dictate the content.


18 posted on 10/20/2009 3:10:26 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Jean S

Beck was all over “Net Neutrality” today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uULNBso0BU


19 posted on 10/20/2009 3:10:51 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: Mr. Blonde

Charging based on the amount of usage is fine in my book, but I don’t want the ISPs touching the content itself. That’s not what I’m paying them to do.

Common carrier status worked out OK for the telephone network.


20 posted on 10/20/2009 4:12:59 PM PDT by bornred
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To: HKMk23
WWGWD? (What Would George Washington Do?)

Washington would have only used open source software like Linux, eschewing Windows. Duh.

21 posted on 10/20/2009 4:16:32 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Jean S

The only Republicans with balls seem to be the woman.

Blackburn, Cheney, Palin, and Bachmann. Add in Jeri Thompson too.


22 posted on 10/20/2009 4:32:42 PM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: bornred

What happens when Comcast realizes that they don’t own the Free Republic and then decides that you need to pay triple rates to access it (or any website not owned by them)?


23 posted on 10/20/2009 4:39:47 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

If you’re a current customer, you hit them, hard, and then leave. If you sign up under those terms, sucks to be you.


24 posted on 10/20/2009 5:07:17 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: nhwingut
The only Republicans with balls seem to be the woman. Blackburn, Cheney, Palin, and Bachmann. Add in Jeri Thompson too.

Yeah go figure! With the men we get misguided RINO clowns like Lindsey Grahamnesty and McLame. No wonder the GOP is in such a shambles!

25 posted on 10/20/2009 5:13:39 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil...God allowed Hussein...Lord willing he'll give us Sarah to clean up the huge mess.)
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To: Moose Burger

And if you don’t live in a metropolitan area... so only have one high-speed internet provider?


26 posted on 10/20/2009 5:17:15 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: mnehring

“If she makes a statement, it is usually pretty powerful or important.”

IMHO, she’s one of the very few good ones.

She needs more exposure. : )


27 posted on 10/20/2009 5:17:57 PM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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To: gogogodzilla

Oh well, then why stop here, let’s nationalize the internet provider so the rural areas never have to suffer.

(/ do I have to?)

If there’s only one company in the area, and they start selling not-internet (it is, “internet” where the only real service is “intranet”) you simply don’t have an internet provider anymore. The state forcing them back to be internet providers isn’t really going to solve things.


28 posted on 10/20/2009 5:28:26 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Jean S

Marsha Blackburn is my Rep and I am very proud of her


29 posted on 10/20/2009 6:07:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: saganite
Net Neutrality is not Fairness Doctrine!

The government already has a decent solution in the current FCC guidelines, which basically says providers should be content-neutral. This is a very good idea. In addition, all I ask for is full disclosure of all terms and restrictions up front, not buried in a 60 page legaleze contract, no changes posted to an obscure corner of their web site unannounced (you know, you're expected to find and read that huge legaleze document every day and continue to comply with its terms).

My only fear is that the Democrats will use the Net Neutrality issue to push some kind of fairness doctrine.

30 posted on 10/20/2009 6:15:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Moose Burger

You really didn’t answer the question, but diverted to a different, but not discussed issue of nationalization.


31 posted on 10/20/2009 6:19:22 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
My only fear is that the Democrats will use the Net Neutrality issue to push some kind of fairness doctrine.

This is no different than the environmental movement. The environmental movement in the early days was mostly people that had a genuine concern about the environment. As the movement grew, the Left saw an opportunity and essentially hijacked it for their own purposes, turning it into the Socialist mess that it has become. They are doing the same thing with Net Neutrality. The concept itself sounds very high-minded, and those that started it may well have the best of intentions. But the Leftists in (and above) the Obama Administration now see the opportunity to regulate speech on the Internet, i.e. shutdown dissent, using New Neutrality as their entre to go well beyond what was intended with this concept. And don't kid yourself - by the time this bunch is done with it, you won't recognize NN. Do you really trust these people? I sure don't.

32 posted on 10/20/2009 6:33:35 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The DemocRat Party is no longer an American political party.)
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To: Jean S

Am trying to understsnd this “Net Neutrality” issue.

If the Obamunists are for it, I know it’s not good, it is about control, and censorship no doubt of anti-Obama news.

But still not got my arms around the issue so thanks for the post.


33 posted on 10/20/2009 7:03:02 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

When all of this began, the big national broadband ISPs who used monopoly protected pipes into the home (e.g., Comcast, Time Warner, RBOCs, etc.), were floating the idea of charging content providers (i.e., websites) for the bandwidth used by the ISP’s users when viewing the websites. If the website didn’t pay the ISP, the ISP would block the site to its users.

Net neutrality originally meant that the ISPs, which enjoy monopoly protection, couldn’t block sites. If the ISP wanted to charge users for use, they could. However, the original net neutrality proponents didn’t want the ISPs to enact tolls (taxes) on the Internet.

Unfortunately, MoveOn.org got concerned that someone might charge them for their hack ads, so they jumped in, in support of net neutrality. Thus, every conservative and conservative group automatically opposed it.

Today, the original issue seems to have died and net neutrality has morphed into something else. I’m not sure what it’s become. I quit paying attention after the original effort appeared to be little more than a series of trial balloons floated by ISP execs who subsequently backed off.


34 posted on 10/20/2009 7:19:19 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: gogogodzilla

I diverted nothing, but if you want it blunt, that’s the answer: nothing. You do nothing. You don’t have an internet company to go to anymore, so you do nothing. A better answer would be “you set up your own” or “you wait until some other company gets in to take your money”, but for now that’s it. You do nothing.


35 posted on 10/20/2009 7:28:57 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: gogogodzilla
Yes - amount of usage (raw bytes) is OK. Content is going to cause problems. Once you give them the ability to start picking and choosing the kind of content they pass through, they will be pressured to censor:

Kiddie porn
Torrent trackers
Bomb making instructions
Nazi sites
"Hate speech"
Obscure conservative blogs
Free Republic

In approximately that order.

36 posted on 10/20/2009 7:34:42 PM PDT by bornred
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To: william clark
Lol!

Nice deployment of that bastardized phrase.

B
.H
LOL

37 posted on 10/20/2009 8:31:20 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Barack Benito Obama heads the most shocking "end justifies the means" gang of thugs/ administration)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

BTTT!


38 posted on 10/20/2009 8:36:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jean S
Why don't these loons peddle their net neutrality in China?

Does this whole net neutrality thing have something to do with WiMax? I think the libs want to do the same thing with internet access as they are trying to do with health care. They believe high speed broadband is some kind of right that everyone should have. So they demonize the big corporations that control the ISP’s and try to figure out some way to tax or fine them. Then use that money to build free WiMax networks that they can control. Once it's free, people will dump their paid internet for the free govt. controlled internet. Then it will be easy for them to track you and have control over what you can access. Am I way out in left field on this or not?

39 posted on 10/20/2009 10:31:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Jean S
Regulation of the internet and Communications in general is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not expressly grant Congress the power to regulate either. Contact you politicians and let them know you oppose Net Neutrality! Toll free capital switchboard numbers are below.

877-762-8762
866-338-1015
866-220-0044
877-851-6437
40 posted on 10/21/2009 4:09:14 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Soothesayer9

They never can. No natural monopoly can exist for very long. Eventually those high prices attract competition. The problem is legislation/regulation blocking the natural market process - aka liberty.


41 posted on 10/21/2009 4:33:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Jean S

RUMOR!!! Susan Crawford, internet czar, leaving the White House.

She is taking job where my co-workers son works: Mantech


42 posted on 10/21/2009 9:13:27 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: 1010RD

I could say the same about tyranny, high taxes, fascism, etc. They all have a breaking point. Obama/Biden will eventually get theirs after the people have had enough.


43 posted on 10/21/2009 10:44:12 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Soothesayer9

I think it will last a bit longer than the Obama Administration.


44 posted on 10/21/2009 4:02:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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