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U.S. State Tax Revenue Drops Most Since 1963
The Market Oracle ^ | 10-17-2009 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 10/18/2009 2:02:17 PM PDT by blam

U.S. State Tax Revenue Drops Most Since 1963

Oct 17, 2009 - 04:57 PM
By: Mike_Shedlock

Bloomberg is reporting State Revenue Falls Most Since 1963 on Incomes, Sales.

U.S. state tax collections tumbled the most in almost half a century in the second quarter as the economic recession curbed levies on incomes and sales.

The 16.6 percent plunge was the biggest since at least 1963, the Nelson A. Rockefeller Institute of Government said today. For the 12 months to June 30, the fiscal year for most states, revenue declined 8.2 percent, or $63 billion, about twice what states got from the $787 billion U.S. economic stimulus package, the institute said.

State revenue has dwindled for two straight quarters and continued to decline in July and August, the Albany-based research organization said. Budgets for the year that began July 1 already face $26 billion of deficits, the Washington, D.C.- based Center on Budget and Policy Priorities said Aug. 12, forcing state lawmakers to confront additional spending cuts.

“We’re looking at a multiyear problem hitting essentially every state,” Robert Ward, the institute’s deputy director, told reporters. “It has happened during recessions before, but the depth of this decline is unprecedented in modern times.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; revenue; sales; state; taxes; third100days

1 posted on 10/18/2009 2:02:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Yeah, wait till record snows hit. No one will be able to afford to dig out.


2 posted on 10/18/2009 2:06:05 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: blam
Bloomberg is reporting State Revenue Falls Most Since 1963 on Incomes, Sales

GOOD!!!! can't vote the vermin out of office, maybe we can starv'em out!

3 posted on 10/18/2009 2:06:36 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: blam

Interestingly the largest ever tax revenues collected by the IRS were in April 2008 with the Bush tax cuts. Reagan’s tax cuts also raised tax revenue.


4 posted on 10/18/2009 2:07:49 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ

Wow the awesome “new normal” economy from Baraq & Goolsbee.


5 posted on 10/18/2009 2:09:28 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: blam

And so the Obama plan for America continues. Next step raise taxes by letting the Bush tax cuts expire, thus driving the economy even further downward and opening the door for our benevolent government to save us.


6 posted on 10/18/2009 2:10:17 PM PDT by 1raider1
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To: blam

Now we should continue to police the world and give everybody health insurance while keeping our boarders open........The spending is way out of control!


7 posted on 10/18/2009 2:10:57 PM PDT by Engineer_Soldier (Rubio for Senate! Charlie Crist is another John McCain.)
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To: blam
U.S. State Tax Revenue Drops Most Since 1963

I bet state government spending didn't follow suit however.

8 posted on 10/18/2009 2:11:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 1raider1
...thus driving the economy even further downward and opening the door for our benevolent government to save us.

Which is exactly what will happen by design!

9 posted on 10/18/2009 2:12:34 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: blam

Don’t worry. States will punish citizens by closing prisons and letting out dangerous criminals. That ought to get people to support hiking taxes, right?


10 posted on 10/18/2009 2:17:38 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: blam
1963, when the Democrat in office was merely a philanderer who at least had the stones to stand up to Communists (Instead of appoint them to be czars).

Nikita, so far, was right.

Are we there yet?

11 posted on 10/18/2009 2:18:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: blam

Thus causing the gov of Mass. to warn that hack layoffs were coming. This prompted the local AFL-CIO mouthpiece to go on local talk radio to advocate for an increase in the state income tax.

12 posted on 10/18/2009 2:24:54 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway.)
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For the 12 months to June 30, the fiscal year for most states, revenue declined 8.2 percent, or $63 billion, about twice what states got from the $787 billion U.S. economic stimulus package

Cause and effect.

13 posted on 10/18/2009 2:40:09 PM PDT by vollmond (I'm an issues voter. If you're a Democrat, I've got issues.)
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To: blam

bookmark.


14 posted on 10/18/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: pnh102
"Don’t worry. States will punish citizens by closing prisons and letting out dangerous criminals. That ought to get people to support hiking taxes, right?"

Yup. You haven't heard any whining yet...wait till government workers start getting laid off. I expect most voted for THE MESSIAH.

15 posted on 10/18/2009 2:46:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Hooray. Let’s have a tea party and celebrate!


16 posted on 10/18/2009 2:47:42 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

Good....let ‘em eat it.
“Budget by force” will be good for them....and fun to watch.


17 posted on 10/18/2009 2:50:15 PM PDT by qrstuv
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To: Smokin' Joe
"Are we there yet? "

Closer. Still sloughing in that direction.

Karl Marx Predicted Collapse Of US Dollar In 1857

18 posted on 10/18/2009 2:50:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
They should try being the people who actually earn the money, instead of just being the ones who steal it at will.

Oh well, the good news is: When the dog dies, the ticks die too.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 10/18/2009 2:58:25 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: blam

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=14306

“The federal government’s promise to extricate the U.S. economy from this recession involves more spending (increasing public debt) and more subsidies for consumers, such as car rebates and home buying incentives (more private debt). In other words, more debt is supposed to solve the problem of over-indebtedness.

The truth is that this policy merely indentures its citizens further without providing any income for repayment of debt.


20 posted on 10/18/2009 3:08:15 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: The Great RJ
Yep, pay attention to the GDP;

Tax Rates do Correlate with the GDP
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Tax Revenues do Correlate with the GDP, which Democrats are destroying

21 posted on 10/18/2009 3:11:58 PM PDT by Son House (OcarterCare by Congress will make all Americans = Wards of the State)
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To: blam
I can tell you exactly why sales tax income dropped in my city. City fathers decided they needed more money than they were getting from sales tax to fix potholes. They hoodwinked voters to pass a half cent sales tax hike to take care of the problem.

The problem is that those of us who live outside the city didn't get a voice in the vote. City fathers figured that we would pay our "fair share" because after all we came into the city every day didn't we? Ah well no we don't.

I did some research and the tax rate is much lower in the small berg I live outside of. Voila. Guess where I'm doing most of my shopping now? It ain't the big city! Stupid voters!

22 posted on 10/18/2009 3:21:31 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: OpeEdMunkey
Thus causing the gov of Mass. to warn that hack layoffs were coming.

Well, we'll see -- can't help remembering a Howie Carr piece (about MWRA, but emblematic of how the state functions). When MWRA was started, he predicted the growth of a hack bureaucracy -- by leaps and bounds. But he noted that they'd also have to hire a couple of $300 a week typists. Not that there'd be that much typing to be done, but so they'd have someone to lay off when taxpayer screams about the cost got too loud! ;-)

23 posted on 10/18/2009 3:28:59 PM PDT by maryz
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To: blam; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


24 posted on 10/18/2009 3:30:46 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: blam
Boy that's bad news! It sure is a good thing we are out of Obama’s recession as our good and trustworthy friends in the media are telling us or things would REALLY be bad.
25 posted on 10/18/2009 3:32:16 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: blam

So what?? Kali don’t need no stinkin revenue, a few more queers and same sex marriages, but no more revenue$.


26 posted on 10/18/2009 3:52:15 PM PDT by Waco (Kiss an illegal aliens' axx and buckle yer seat belt, it's the law.)
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To: 1raider1
http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/bg2001.cfm
Fact: Tax revenues correlate with economic growth, not tax rates.

Many of those who desire additional tax revenues regularly call on Congress to raise tax rates, but tax revenues are a function of two variables: tax rates and the tax base.

Regardless of the tax rate, tax revenues have almost always come in at approximately 18 percent of GDP.
Tax Rates do Correlate with the GDP


27 posted on 11/15/2009 3:19:50 PM PST by Son House (The penalty for Conservatism will be high.)
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