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SOCIALIZED MEDICINE DAILY DIGEST FOR 10/17/09
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Posted on 10/18/2009 11:15:16 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious

Dick Morris: How much ObamaCare costs the average family

The Hill ^ | October 16, 2009 | Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:00:26 AM by 2ndDivisionVet

Whether or not you now have health insurance, Obama’s healthcare bill will cost you dearly. If you don’t have insurance, you will be required to buy it. The legislation specifies how much you will have to pay for the coverage before any subsidy kicks in. All during the campaign, Obama kept speaking about affordable coverage. Now it appears that his definition of “affordable” might be a bit elastic.

White House to Let Insurers Warn Medicare Recipients About Pending Health Bills

New York Times ^ | October 16, 2009 | Robert Pear

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:15:04 AM by reaganaut1

The Obama administration on Friday backed away from an order that had prohibited insurance companies from warning Medicare recipients about the possible loss of benefits under pending legislation to overhaul the health care system.

Obama Administration Drops 'Gag Order' on Private Health Insurer

FoxNews.com ^ | 10-17-09 | Fox News

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:57:20 AM by GOP_Lady

U.S. health officials announced Friday that private insurers can send seniors information on health-related issues as long as they allow their members to opt out of receiving the communications, effectively ending its probe of Humana.

The Enron Accounting of Health Care Reform

The Provocateur ^ | 10/17/2009 | Mike Volpe

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:10:03 AM by fiscon1

The president wants a massive health care overhaul. He also wants to keep it under $900 billion over the next ten years, and he wants it be deficit neutral. So, how do the Democrats plan on accomplishing all these things? It's through Enron style accounting.

1) Collect taxes and revenues in year one but don't begin to provide services until year three.

Health insurers "deceptive and dishonest": Obama [and a bunch of meanies......]

Reuters ^

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:30:24 AM by Sub-Driver

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Barack Obama lashed out on Saturday against the "deceptive and dishonest" efforts of health insurance companies, who he said are trying to kill healthcare reform, no matter the cost to the country.

Sharpening his attack on insurers, Obama also signaled support for a congressional review of the insurance industry's long-standing exemption from federal anti-trust laws. Some Democrats want the privilege repealed.

Anti-Gun ObamaCare Now Moves to the Senate Floor (No coverage for households with firearms?)

AmmoLand ^ | October 16, 2009 | GOA

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:09:29 AM by 2ndDivisionVet

Well, there’s good news and bad news.

If you’ve been listening to the media, you know the bad news. Senators voted the Baucus version of the ObamaCare bill out the Senate Finance Committee on Tuesday, and the legislation now moves to the Senate floor.

So what’s the good news? President Obama still doesn’t have the 60 votes he needs to overcome a filibuster of his nationalized health care bill.

In brief, the Baucus bill which passed out of committee will hurt you in several ways:

* You will have less money for buying firearms and ammunition. Hopefully, you have $25,900 that you don’t know what to do with — every year. Because that’s how much the Baucus bill is going to cost an average family of four to pay for a government-mandated ObamaCare policy every year.

That’s right … $25,900 every year! That will be your cost, according to a Price Waterhouse study of the Baucus legislation. You will be required to purchase this ObamaCare policy and pay this amount under penalty of law under Baucus’ bill. (Go to http://www.politico.com/static/PPM116_pwc2.html to read the Price Waterhouse study.)

* Anti-gun medical database that can be used to deny your right to purchase firearms. As GOA has warned for several months, the ObamaCare legislation will pump your medical information into the medical database that was created under the stimulus bill earlier this year. The federal government has already used medical diagnoses (such as PTSD) to deny more than 150,000 military veterans the right to own guns — without their being convicted of a crime or receiving any due process of law. So don’t be surprised if socialized ObamaCare results in your medical information being used to infringe upon your Second Amendment rights.

The Pandemic Is Political - Swine flu and the World Health Organization's agenda

Forbes ^ | 10/16/2009 | Michael Fumento

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 3:56:23 AM by bruinbirdman

As evidence continues to mount that swine flu is more of a piglet than a raging razorback, why isn't curiosity mounting as to why the World Health Organization declared it a pandemic? And definitions aside, why does the agency continue to insist we're going to get hammered? The answers have far less to do with world health than with redistribution of world wealth.

Unions Spurn White House to Oppose Senate Health Bill

souce cannot be posted | 14 October 2009

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:05:27 PM by Lorianne

Synopsis: 27 Labor Unions oppose Senate Finance Committee health insurance reform plan passed yesterday (Oct 12).

House, Senate Democrats disagree over taxes, other health care issues (going after each other)

The Spec ^ | 10/17/09 | Erica Werner

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:04:22 PM by Libloather

WASHINGTON - It's not just Democrats and Republicans who are at odds over health care reform. House and Senate Democrats are going after each other over the shape of the legislation that is President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

Toughest Battle Over Health Care Reform Is Among Democrats

APvia FOX ^ | AP

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 5:05:41 PM by Doogle

You may think Democrats and Republicans are at odds over health care. Well, they've got nothing on House and Senate Democrats going after each other.

The intraparty disputes may prove the most grueling test of all as Congress tries to write a bill that fulfills President Obama's goal of extending coverage to millions of Americans and reining in rising medical costs.

Foxnews Poll Internals: Obama Losing Independents, Health Care Reform Continues Slide (Charts)

hotairpundit ^ | 10/17/09 | talkradio03

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:07:24 PM by Talkradio03

Mass exodus from Independents continues, and the poll questions on Health Care will never make it on the news, because it's a disaster from Health Care Reform....(Charts)

SNEAKY DECEPTIVE DEMOCRATS to ATTACH HEALTH CARE BILL to A TAX BILL to Jam Thru PUBLIC OPTION

idiots4obama.com ^ | October 17, 2009 | staff

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:13:46 PM by kellynla

Democrats' secret 4-step plan to jam public option!!

Lessons from the Massachusetts healthcare experiment

LA Times ^ | October 17, 2009 | James Oliphant and Kim Geiger

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:01:33 PM by CutePuppy

Three years ago, Massachusetts passed the most sweeping healthcare bill in the country, adopting a plan that closely resembles the proposals being considered by Congress. It is a plan that now offers powerful lessons for the whole nation.

The Health Care Risks of Fat Congressmen Who Want National Health Care For You

Feed Your ADHD ^ | 10/17/2009 | Dr. Dave

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:28:20 PM by bloodmeridian

The other day a story came out in the Washington Post indicating that Senate plans for “health reform” could very much end up coming down to this: Get healthy or the get taxed to death, with the emphasis on dying sooner so you can get the hell out of the way.

So, in the interest of brevity, let’s just break down an April 2009 report by Politico, when the debate over national health takeover was just beginning so soon after America woke up to the fact that Democrats (and Democrat lite Senators Olympia Snow and Susan Collins) had Obuggered us with a $787 billion “stimulus” plan that 6 months later hasn’t provided one tangible benefit (except the incredibly cheap per-job cost of $71,500 and the benevolence of turtle tunnels) and focus on one individual who has far too much influence over whether or not, under Obuggercare, your health status will be the difference among you receiving government gravy or being left alone or getting ground into soylent green.

Health Reform Subsidy Calculator -- Premium Assistance for Coverage in Exchanges/Gateways (Kaiser)

Kaiser ^

Posted on Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:40:24 AM by Lorianne

This tool illustrates premiums and government assistance under the types of reform proposals being considered in Congress for people under age 65 who purchase coverage on their own in an Exchange or Gateway and are not covered through their employer, Medicare or Medicaid. While the proposals considered would not take effect until 2013, the results are presented in terms of 2009 premium and income levels to enable better comparisons to current circumstances. The tool allows the user to start with the provisions from one of several proposals and examine the impact at different income levels. Advanced settings allow users to change assumptions to show the effect of different policy choices.

'Reform' No One Wants to Pay For

Real Clear Politics ^ | 10/17/2009 | Michael Barone

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:16:23 AM by fiscon1

The legislative process can also be a learning process, and as Congress considers health care legislation -- the latest act being the Senate Finance Committee's vote in favor of Chairman Max Baucus' bill, or "conceptual language" -- we have been learning something useful. It's that legislators would like to provide generous, even gold-plated health insurance coverage to almost all Americans, but that no one wants to pay for it.

Calif. officials eschew tort reforms

AP ^ | 10-17-09

Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:14:18 PM by Ja7430

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Legal Newsline)-While California lawmakers are traditionally busy in their home districts during autumn, after the state Legislature recesses, this year they will be called into at least three special sessions to address a bevy of complex issues.

Not among them is legal reform, which proponents say would help kick-start California's lagging economy and draw new industry to the Golden State, where unemployment has topped 12 percent,



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; various

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