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CALIFORNIA´S GOVERNOR SIGNS LEGISLATION TO HELP TRACK AMMUNITION SALES (AB 962)
California Chronicle ^ | Oct 12, 2009 | California Chronicle

Posted on 10/12/2009 12:27:47 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814

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To: mysterio

ROFL


41 posted on 10/12/2009 12:54:01 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: DBrow

If everyone who gives a rip buys fifty rounds of ammo, own a gun or not. It would overload the system and they would never be able to track everyone down. Use The Messiah’s community organizing tactics on them.


42 posted on 10/12/2009 12:54:07 PM PDT by Flint
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To: calex59

They will probably ban that conduct next year. They already made it more or less illegal to bring in a car from out of state to get around their ever more asinine vehicle control regulations.


43 posted on 10/12/2009 12:54:53 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Don’t blame Arnold...being a tyrant is in his genetics.

It’s amazing how many Californians love getting smacked around and discounted. Have they adopted the state motto: Beat me, whip me. Make me write cold checks.”


44 posted on 10/12/2009 12:55:02 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I've fired centerfire rifle ammo that was produced in 1944, and it was fine.

I'm not sure about shotgun ammo due to its plastic components. Anybody know?

45 posted on 10/12/2009 12:55:07 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: GL of Sector 2814
The law requires maintenance of purchaser records by handgun ammunition vendors. Local law enforcement can use these records to find illegal guns.

Yeah, just like the ballistic "fingerprint" database has been used to crack open oh so many crimes, and the Canadian gun registry has led to so many prosecutions and convictions...

... uh...

Never mind.

46 posted on 10/12/2009 12:55:16 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Flint

Unfortunately, that’s not so unless all said people buy 50 rounds a day, every day.

Even Walmart’s internal sales tracking system doesn’t find that a challenge at all.


47 posted on 10/12/2009 12:56:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DBrow

I was thinking the same thing....drive to neighboring Nevada, enjoy the casinos, and buy a carload of ammo before returning to California.

The ammo sellers in Nevada and Arizona are going to make some nice profits.


48 posted on 10/12/2009 12:57:43 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan.....a Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: matt1234

Older shotgun ammo had brass casings, the plastic casings are a relatively recent development. The big question for a shotgun shell is that one end by definition isn’t sealed all that well and therefore is susceptible to moisture ingress. I don’t recall anyone finding old shotgun ammo and testing it, though.


49 posted on 10/12/2009 12:58:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

As long as you live. Keep dry and about....I guess optimum temp is about 60 - 67 degrees.


50 posted on 10/12/2009 12:58:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Almost indefinitely. I had some 30-06 ammo in 1975 that was manufactured in 1942 for Marine use(my Uncle was a retired Captain of Marines and helped me out here)and I had 2000 rounds of it. It worked well, the only thing was the corrosive primers that necessitated cleaning the gun with water on the day of shooting and 2 days after in order to get all the salt out of the gun, but that was a minor convenience compared to the 2000 pieces of brass I obtained. No misfires in the 2000 rounds either.

The brass lasted for a long time afterwards through many reloadings.

51 posted on 10/12/2009 12:59:08 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

The new law does not define what handgun ammo is. .22? .221 Fireball? .17?

There is a T/C setup for .223 Rem, that’s handgun ammo, right? .410, 7.62x39, and dozens of other rounds can be fired from commercially available handguns.


52 posted on 10/12/2009 12:59:24 PM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: DBrow
Anyone selling or transferring more than 50 rounds per month must have a license to do so (giving a buddy a brick of .22 is now a crime in CA).

I skipped the last gun show in Del Mar. Too bad. It would have been a good time to grab some ammo. No big deal because all my firearms are at home in Idaho. I still have a few rifles that aren't sighted in or fired for the first time. I simply haven't had time to take my toys to the range this year.

This is probably going to put the indoor ranges out of business. They typically sell a bag of 50 rds to a customer to shoot with the rentals. Long term members bring their own. Either way, you're not going to want to deplete your supply with a big fling at the range if you are limited to one box of 50 rds per month. My wife and I were shooting 400 rds of 38SPL a week (800 rds total) when we lived in San Diego. I would reload 800 rds on Sunday night while listening to Matt Drudge's radio show.

My presence in San Diego is simply a business trip. Home is still in Idaho. My wife, kids, pets and "stuff" is still there. I could pack up and be back at my home in Idaho in 20 hours from the word "go" if necessary.

53 posted on 10/12/2009 1:01:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: TexasFreeper2009
how long will ammunition stay good if stored well?

A lifetime, more or less.

54 posted on 10/12/2009 1:02:05 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Spktyr
Older shotgun ammo had brass casings, the plastic casings are a relatively recent development. The big question for a shotgun shell is that one end by definition isn’t sealed all that well and therefore is susceptible to moisture ingress. I don’t recall anyone finding old shotgun ammo and testing it, though.

Most older shotgun shells were made of paper with a brass base. Not many were made of all brass but there were some.

I have used old paper ammo made back in the 50s but they were kept dry for the most part. The paper shells were easy to ruin if you let them get wet. As for sealing one end that is easy if you were going to store them for a long time. Keep them cool and dry and they should be good for many, many years.

55 posted on 10/12/2009 1:02:21 PM PDT by calex59
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To: GL of Sector 2814
Stock up now will be the cry before the Democrats and Liberals go for the same law in the other 49 (57 for Obama supporters) states. De facto gun control was one of Obama's tenets when he ran for President.
56 posted on 10/12/2009 1:02:22 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: DBrow
Think I’ll fix the old pickup truck for some extended desert treks.

LOL! GMTA.

57 posted on 10/12/2009 1:04:28 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“how long will ammunition stay good if stored well?”

If you use primer sealer (like military rounds), a lot longer.


58 posted on 10/12/2009 1:04:34 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: GL of Sector 2814; All

We are FIGHTING THIS!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=230676


59 posted on 10/12/2009 1:05:10 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: matt1234

Just checked a couple of sources. Seems that some shotgun shells had paper hulls - those are even more prone to become duds.

However, if the shotgun shells are stored properly in a cool and dry place, they can apparently last at least 50-60 years if not more.


60 posted on 10/12/2009 1:05:54 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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