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Criminalizing everyone
Washington Times ^ | Oct 5, 2009 | Brian W. Walsh

Posted on 10/06/2009 5:53:46 AM PDT by decimon

Needed: A 'clean line' to determine lawfulness

"You don't need to know. You can't know." That's what Kathy Norris, a 60-year-old grandmother of eight, was told when she tried to ask court officials why, the day before, federal agents had subjected her home to a furious search.

The agents who spent half a day ransacking Mrs. Norris' longtime home in Spring, Texas, answered no questions while they emptied file cabinets, pulled books off shelves, rifled through drawers and closets, and threw the contents on the floor.

The six agents, wearing SWAT gear and carrying weapons, were with - get this- the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Kathy and George Norris lived under the specter of a covert government investigation for almost six months before the government unsealed a secret indictment and revealed why the Fish and Wildlife Service had treated their family home as if it were a training base for suspected terrorists. Orchids.

That's right. Orchids.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; crime; cwii; donttreadonme; donutwatch; federallaw; jackbootedthugs; law; lping; overcriminalization; policestate; rapeofliberty; swat; unionthugs
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1 posted on 10/06/2009 5:53:46 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

The most dangerous phrase in the English Language — “There oughtta be a law!”


2 posted on 10/06/2009 5:55:51 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: decimon

Come to think of it, would Nero Wolfe be Public Enemy Number One?


3 posted on 10/06/2009 5:56:26 AM PDT by decimon
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There have been no knock/guns drawn raids by swat teams to investigate someone they suspected of taking too many fish. Not a commercial fisherman, a guy suspected of taking 2 too many bass.


4 posted on 10/06/2009 5:58:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: decimon

So let me get this straight, Child molesters get probation but a senior citizen growing orchids get 2 years in jail?


5 posted on 10/06/2009 5:59:04 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Uncle Ike
The most dangerous phrase in the English Language — “There oughtta be a law!”

Antedated. Today it's, "There is a law!"

6 posted on 10/06/2009 5:59:12 AM PDT by decimon
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The gummint is merely trying to protect us from the Attack of the Mutant Orchids.


7 posted on 10/06/2009 6:00:05 AM PDT by Einherjar (PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER)
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To: marstegreg
So let me get this straight, Child molesters get probation but a senior citizen growing orchids get 2 years in jail?

"You don't need to know. You can't know."

8 posted on 10/06/2009 6:01:57 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and
no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.


9 posted on 10/06/2009 6:05:46 AM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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I thought they had to provide a copy of the search warrant to the property owner before starting a search. Or is that just a TV thing?


10 posted on 10/06/2009 6:08:10 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: decimon

Think of the future as a boot, endlessly trampling a human face.


11 posted on 10/06/2009 6:08:47 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: decimon
A person cannot wake up in America without breaking a Law that could land them unjustly in Prison. What amazes me more is the Judges and Inforcers who think they are doing GOOD for the country in pursuing such dasturdly criminals as in this artical.

Where or where do they come from!

12 posted on 10/06/2009 6:08:53 AM PDT by jedi150
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To: decimon

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be
much easier to deal with.” (’Atlas Shrugged’, Ayn Rand)


13 posted on 10/06/2009 6:08:56 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: driftdiver
There have been no knock/guns drawn raids by swat teams to investigate someone they suspected of taking too many fish. Not a commercial fisherman, a guy suspected of taking 2 too many bass.

Things like too many bass or some errant orchids are cause for a warning or some reasonable fine. Assuming, that is, the laws or regulations involved are reasonable.

14 posted on 10/06/2009 6:10:37 AM PDT by decimon
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To: marstegreg

Not more than three or four years ago I was ridiculed by multiple Freepers for saying that this is NOT a free country. I used to hear someone almost everyday say, “It’s a free country ain’t it?” Does anyone still believe this is a free country?


15 posted on 10/06/2009 6:11:07 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: decimon

I just finished reading ORCHID FEVER written by Eric Hansen.
These regulations are the results of CITES, The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora. This book is a real eye opener for anyone interested to see how a group of selfish “experts” can import and collect anything they desire while destroying anyone they dislike or have a falling out with. An excellent example of power corrupting and regulation gone wild. This happens around the world in those countries that are members and have signed on to this global nonsense. Bottom line is that Orchids are NOT protected from clear cutting, etc. and destroyed because collecting them and selling them is illegal.


16 posted on 10/06/2009 6:11:52 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: jedi150
What amazes me more is the Judges and Inforcers who think they are doing GOOD for the country...

See post #13.

17 posted on 10/06/2009 6:13:21 AM PDT by decimon
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To: jwparkerjr

Lets see, I would slap the sh!t out of the judge for signing off on this, as well as dis-bar his dumb ass, I would seize the assets of these idiots in hiding (swat) and lock them up for felony stupid and then kneecap the wannabe cop (fish & wildlife) moron then turn him over to ObamaCare.


18 posted on 10/06/2009 6:14:27 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: RipSawyer

I was a free country. You just happened to realize what was happening under the radar long before the rest of us did. If it wasn’t for people like you trying to open our eyes we might not have seen it at all. Thank you.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 6:19:01 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: RipSawyer
Not more than three or four years ago I was ridiculed by multiple Freepers for saying that this is NOT a free country. I used to hear someone almost everyday say, “It’s a free country ain’t it?” Does anyone still believe this is a free country?

Watching the movie, Heat, I was struck by this line from the Jon Voight character: "It's a free country, brother." Struck because I would hear that expression often when I was young but hadn't heard it voiced in years.

20 posted on 10/06/2009 6:19:29 AM PDT by decimon
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