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To: ciwwaf
Remind him that usually that is not the case, such as in entropy.

It is probably unwise for a student (or anyone else) to bring up entropy unless he really understands entropy.

Those who cite entropy as an argument against evolution are misusing thermodynamics. (I say that as someone who teaches engineering thermodynamics.)

55 posted on 09/28/2009 3:57:39 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile

I was not stating that entropy was supportive of evolution. I stated that evolution without guidance is order out of chaos which is usually not the case and gave an example of entropy.

Also when I say order out of chaos, I understand natural selection is a deciding factor on which random events to choose. But the random mutations happening at the same time period to give us the convergence we see today is highly unlikely and would suggest that either there is some guiding force in the mutations occurring or there is a natural order in the random events other than evenly spread.

I cited entropy and should have been specific about statistical entropy because it favors randomness rather than a pattern simply because there are more microstates within the macrostate which is “average”.

If there are 100 mutations and 5 time periods the largest macrostate would be 20-20-20-20-20. One of the smallest being 0-0-0-0-100. Yet, what we see in parallel evolution is much closer to 0-0-0-0-100.

correct me if i’m wrong please I never took thermodynamics.


60 posted on 09/28/2009 4:17:07 PM PDT by ciwwaf
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