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Oh My! (The Free Enterprise Nation)
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Posted on 09/28/2009 9:52:49 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

As researchers for The Free Enterprise Nation began compiling information about the pay and benefits disparity that exists between government/public education and those who work in the private sector, we'd hear an occasional "OH, MY GOSH!" or "OH, MY!" as they found another reference to shocking pay and benefits practices in the public sector. It might have been the first time they saw a State of California pensioner retiring at $500,000 a year...or perhaps the Illinois driver's training teacher earning $170,000 a year and retiring at $130,000 a year...or perhaps the New York City workers who amass more than $100,000 in overtime in their last year before retirement, triggering a pension benefit in excess of their salary.

And in every case, these "public servants" retired in their 50's, with free or highly subsidized health care and guaranteed annual increases in their pension benefits. Countless examples led to a new classification..."OH, MY!,” or "OM" for these examples. The following are just a few:

Pay Excesses

Benefits Disparity

          BUT….

Double-Dipping/Spiking/Pension Abuse

Employment Situation

Growing Debt and Unfunded Liabilities

Government’s Decisions for Dealing with Budget Shortfalls

The above are just a few examples of the more than 2,000 entries in The Free Enterprise Nation database. You can become a member of and support The Free Enterprise Nation for as little as $5.00 a year.

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Please join us now. You are a part of the 5 million employers and 115 million workers in the private sector. We have to stop government/public education from using our tax dollars to provide themselves with pay and benefits that we can never have for ourselves. Lower taxes to employers means higher compensation to you, and lower taxes to you means you can have more of the money that you work so hard to earn.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; democrats; education; govermentpay
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New Mexico is not listed, but recently there have been cases uncovered of public employees retiring, collecting their pensions, and continuing to work at the same jobs while drawing the same salaries.
1 posted on 09/28/2009 9:52:50 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: brytlea; Diana in Wisconsin; Kakaze; Tammy8; unkus; metmom; Cap Huff; svcw; leapfrog0202; Concho; ..

Ping


2 posted on 09/28/2009 9:54:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with media's help.)
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To: greyfoxx39

OUTSTANDING post! Thanks.


3 posted on 09/28/2009 9:56:16 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: greyfoxx39

I picked this link up at National Review. I notice that Free Enterprise Nation offers a paid membership available to businesses. That said, if the information is accurate in this article, it’s worth being brought to light.


4 posted on 09/28/2009 9:58:59 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with media's help.)
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To: greyfoxx39

It’s common practice. Retire, then come back to work as a consultant and make pension plus salary.


5 posted on 09/28/2009 9:59:11 AM PDT by resistance (abandon all hope and reason, become a democrat)
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To: greyfoxx39

And some people are so surprised that the Tea Party movement is gaining momentum that they resort to calling TPers ‘terrorists’.


6 posted on 09/28/2009 10:03:08 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: greyfoxx39; bamahead

ping


7 posted on 09/28/2009 10:14:35 AM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: greyfoxx39

The disparity is actually worse because of supposed ‘private enterprise’ salaries include contractors for government services that are often required to pay union rates. For instance a road company who’s entire business comes from local, state or federal contracts, and is required to pay union rates is placed in the ‘private sector’ column, when in fact it is a government enterprise.

If you took out defense contractors, road-building-service contractors and their forced inflated rates.........the difference would be even more.

There are two economies. Private-private, a private-public. The privately owned, but servicing government ought to be filed on the government side of the ledger.

Anyways, let the children pay for it. Or the Chinese.


8 posted on 09/28/2009 10:16:43 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: tgusa

Anyone who threatens the pig trough, is terrorizing to the piggies.


9 posted on 09/28/2009 10:18:23 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: greyfoxx39

I cannot believe this crap! Government workers on average make more than most people, have a greater benefits package, more holiday and an outstanding but, outlandish retirement package!

This is bullshit. We have to pay some 42 year old or 52 year old $80,000-$100,000 a year plus a smoking and free healthcare package?

Who retires after working twenty years and gets that?

Does this seem fair to anyone?
and


10 posted on 09/28/2009 10:18:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: greyfoxx39
 
"And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."
--Thomas Jefferson, the American Declaration of Independence
http://www.constitution.org/usdeclar.htm
 
 
Retirement plan?  Jefferson died in debt.
 
How will WE honor the sacrifice?

11 posted on 09/28/2009 10:21:21 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: greyfoxx39
The teacher's union in my town last year negotiated a new contract. The starting - starting! - salary is $44,000/year. That is obscene. I'm sorry, but high school and grade school teachers are mostly a dime a dozen. Many of the people going into education these days are unimpressive individuals simply lookling for a free lunch. There will be a day of reckoning on this nonsense, though.
12 posted on 09/28/2009 10:37:34 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The DemocRat Party is no longer an American political party.)
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To: greyfoxx39

We need to get real.

Elections WILL NOT correct this.....


13 posted on 09/28/2009 10:42:33 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( Reagan said, "When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.")
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To: greyfoxx39

Government employment is the biggest single threat to our liberty and freedom. The result is ever increasing and self sustaining government power.

We must start shrinking the size and scope of goverment or we will lose the republic as we know it. Here’s why.

No matter how important the issue, no one will ever vote themselves out of a job and retirment package. This is the dirty little secret all democrats and statist adhere to.


14 posted on 09/28/2009 10:45:23 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: TXDuke

Ping...We’re in the wrong industry...but we already knew that. :-)


15 posted on 09/28/2009 10:48:48 AM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: roses of sharon

“We need to get real.

Elections WILL NOT correct this.....”

+1

You are most likely correct. The chances that this can be corrected by elections are getting smaller and smaller.

We must get term limits on all congressional and senate seats.
We must get representation absolutely committed to shrinking the government.

Time is running out on this. If Obama gets control of heath care in time it will convert most everyone in the industry to government employment. We are likely finished as a representative republic at that time.


16 posted on 09/28/2009 10:53:21 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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Interesting stats.



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17 posted on 09/28/2009 10:55:57 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: greyfoxx39; All
And then, once they've bled their systems for decades and cashed in, they leave their tax-inflated states (made so by themselves and their cohorts) and move to the South “for the low taxes”).

Whereupon they immediately proceed to ensconce themselves in little enclaves of like-minded assholes, bitch about the "lack of services" and "culture", and actively set about screwing up their new neighborhoods (people from Jersey, complaining about the lack of "culcha"...??? Oh, please...). They're retired so they have plenty of time to make a hobby out of sticking their noses into everyone else's business.

In most of the Southwest it's the same thing, only it's Californicators. In NM, it's always been Texans. In general, if they just mind their own business, no-one cares. But when they decide to change the place they "escaped to", into the place they "escaped from", they can ruin a nice place really fast. Think Ashville, NC, Aiken, SC, Knoxville, TN, Santa Fe, NM, Crested Butte, CO, all of Florida,,,, ad-infinitum.

Unofficial South Carolina State Motto:
"They's 'Yankees', and then they's 'Damned Yankees'! Yankees come to visit, Damned Yankees come to stay".

18 posted on 09/28/2009 11:13:20 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: conservativeharleyguy
The only people in New Jersey who would say a word like "culcha" either migrated from the outer boroughs of NYC or had parents who did. Most North Jerseyites are a little nasal, but can use their Rs. Folks in South Jersey talk like retarded Philadelphians (Ew-pin the drew-wer, get me a glass of werter, etc.).
19 posted on 09/28/2009 11:17:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: tgusa

Private sector workers are simultaneously being destroyed by government policies, tax increases and regulations that guarantee negative earnings increases, while being forced to pay for the high on the hog lifestyles of the very people that are crushing us with government debt.

Protesting our extermination is racist.

It’s not protests we need but revolution.


20 posted on 09/28/2009 11:22:38 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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