Posted on 09/28/2009 8:14:33 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Utah's elected leaders will present a united front this week against a bill backed by environmentalists that would turn vast swaths of the state's redrock country into federal wilderness.
They say the legislation, which a House committee will discuss Thursday, covers too many acres, impedes private property rights and is little more than "propaganda" pushed by outsiders, like the bill's sponsor Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.
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CAN YOU SAY "10TH AMENDMENT"????
New York can barely govern itself. What right does it have to tell Utah how to run itself.
You just don’t understand, we are one big socialist
family now. Get with the program. /s
A NY leftist is going to steal land in Utah for Big Brother. Well ain’t that nice! The folks in Utah should respond with TWO WORDS!
This is a good opportunity for the busybodies to get
b-slapped. Most Utahans (execepting those kids living
in the area around Sugarhouse in SLC) take a dim view on the Feds locking down their ATV rec areas.
Can you say another candidate for the LIST. There is freedom of speech, but no freedom from repercussions, and responsibility. Arrogant jackass, is the description, and punishable by pastureizing of the same.
I thought Bill Clinton already did this, right before he left office. Or was that a different huge tract of Utah?
But it isn't about protecting the scenic beauty as state and local laws already do that. Could they do more? Probably so. In particular, I'm not fond of some of the ATV's who tear around and leave their damn tracks on some of this land, ruining fragile vegetation, among other things. Neither, for that matter, are some of the local people and landowners.
But this isn't about protecting the environment. People out in flyover country have seen how well the Federalistas protect their own landholdings-- much of which has turned from once marginally productive grazing lands into denuded and burned down forests.
This bill is about depopulating an area which the Federalists deem too hard to govern because the locals are too independent and about extending further their control over the west. More information is available here or by putting the terms "Prairie Empire" and "Rural Depopulation" in a Google search.
BTW, the caption is incorrect.
It’s “San Rafael Swell,” not “Sand Rafael Swell.”
Much of this terrain, BTW, is among the most beautiful in the world. Other large sections look like an abandoned construction site.
I’ve spent much time in that neighborhood “in my youth”.
Utah has enough energy sources stored under its beautiful vastness to power the world for a very long time.
This is an attempt to make sure those resources don’t get touched.
It would be interesting to take the proposed federal wilderness land and overlay it on a map of oil or gas deposits in Utah, or even compare it to proposed sites for nuclear power plants or nuclear waste facilities.
I have found that a great many people who fight most vigorously for the preservation of wilderness spend very little time there themselves. They apparently just enjoy the feeling of being virtuous.
The vast majority of this land is federally owned, mostly as BLM or National Forest.
The area is already pretty thoroughly depopulated. Most of it had more people living there 100 years ago.
This is what Utah gets for allowing so much of its lands to fall into the hands of the Federal Government - NO MORE! This is a long time coming and started with the US Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management and the National Park Service. Insidious government intrusion.
Yep. They've got just as much oil and gas as nearby CO ( whose Dem leadership has put it all off limits) and they are development friendly. Plus the Green River which runs through a lot of this area, is the perfect place for a big nuke plant. And there is tons of coal.
And we can't have that, can we.
That is correct. It is about oil.
Most of North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota plus large parts of Idaho, Oregon, Colorado, Texas, Kansas and Nebraska would fit that description as well. But I fail to see why that is a valid argument for driving out the people and turning it into a giant buffalo preserve or whatever it is that the Federalistas think should be done with the land.
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