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Middleville (MI) woman threatened with fines & jail time for watching neighbor's kids
WZZM 13 website ^ | 9-24-09 | WZZM 13 news

Posted on 09/24/2009 5:30:29 PM PDT by mombyprofession

MIDDLEVILLE (WZZM)- A West Michigan woman says the state is threatening her with fines and possibly jail time for babysitting her neighbors' children.

Lisa Snyder of Middleville says her neighborhood school bus stop is right in front of her home. It arrives after her neighbors need to be at work, so she watches three of their children for 15-40 minutes until the bus comes.

The Department of Human Services received a complaint that Snyder was operating an illegal child care home. DHS contacted Snyder and told her to get licensed, stop watching her neighbors' kids, or face the consequences.

"That we have babysitting police running around this state violating people, threatening to put them in jail or fine them $1,000 for helping their neighbor is truly outrageous" said State Representative Brian Calley.

Calley is drafting legislation that would exempt people who agree to care for non-dependent children from day care rules as long as they're not engaged in a business.

A DHS spokesperson would not comment on the specifics of the case but says they have no choice but to comply with state law, which is designed to protect Michigan children.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: childcare; neighbor
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We MUST have more regulation!!!/sarc
1 posted on 09/24/2009 5:30:29 PM PDT by mombyprofession
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To: mombyprofession

Must be she wasn’t in on the forced unionization.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 5:31:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

This is too much.

It’s more than a Nanny State. It’s a Unionized Nanny State.

Like OSHA in overdrive.


3 posted on 09/24/2009 5:33:17 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: mombyprofession

Well, she is acting like a nanny. And the real Nanny State is gonna object.


4 posted on 09/24/2009 5:33:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: mombyprofession

They’re just angry with her because she didn’t teach the children the Obama pledge.


5 posted on 09/24/2009 5:34:03 PM PDT by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: mombyprofession

Unbelievable!

I must be guilty of this made-up ‘crime’ a hundred times over for the number of kids (relatives and friends’ kids) I’ve had in my ‘unlicensed’ care over the years from 15 minutes to going on 20 years, LOL!

What about all the sleep-over weekends with the cousins, while ‘The Moms’ drank, smoked and played cards all weekend and we kids pretty much fended for ourselves...and LOVED every minute of it!

I’m going to demand reparations from those 70 year old floozies! They ruined my life! *SNORT*


6 posted on 09/24/2009 5:35:23 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: mombyprofession
From my FR Homepage:

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” - Ayn Rand, ‘Atlas Shrugged’ 1957

Rand was a prophet.

7 posted on 09/24/2009 5:38:34 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: mombyprofession

Today I was at the drug store stocking up on cold prepariations. I had four 8 oz cough syrup on the counter. When my items were rung up the machine told the clerk that I could only purchase three.

Becasue of course, some criminals use the cough medicine in some illeagal drug recipes.

So I am less free. I told the man, dont worry about it but I am so tired of the regulations I am forced to bear! He looked up and said Me too. Two or three other people in line chimed in.

There are a lot of frustratd people out here.


8 posted on 09/24/2009 5:41:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: mombyprofession

The wife and I just rewatched “Demolition Man”. The most interesting part the second time around was the absolute beta-male society that forbade everything, which was headed by a seemingly peace-loving leader - who was in actuality a sleezebag.

Watch it, and see if it does not remind you of Obamaland.

Near as I can figure, we’re gonna have to end Obamaland the same way as betamale land was ended in the movie.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 5:41:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Chickensoup

Frustration is good, it leads to anger, action, and then revolution.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 5:42:53 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Chickensoup

Frustration is good, it leads to anger, action, and then revolution.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 5:42:53 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: grellis

ping


12 posted on 09/24/2009 5:44:57 PM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: mombyprofession

This is outrageous. The state of Michigan must set the standard for stupidity. I know it’s not scientific but every time I see a story from that state, it’s negative. There must be some positive things coming out of Michigan but I can’t remember any.


13 posted on 09/24/2009 5:45:24 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: K-oneTexas

You know, I could watch my neigbor’s kids, she could watch mine. We could pay each other, pay taxes, lose money, have inspectors over, be worse off, and the economy would officially have grown.

I love government.


14 posted on 09/24/2009 5:45:42 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: mombyprofession

Time to erect the lemonade stand.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 5:49:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: mombyprofession

Who turned this bad lawbreaker in? They deserve a medal. /s


16 posted on 09/24/2009 5:57:02 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (WARNING! WARNING! "Political Terrorist in Charge" — STAY AWAY FROM MY BODY)
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To: truthguy

Hillsdale college is good. The Thomas Moore law center is in Ann Arbor. We have decent gun laws.

We’re far more conservative than it seems. Detroit and a couple of other urban centers hurt us bad.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 6:02:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: truthguy
...positive things coming out of Michigan...
People are moving out.
18 posted on 09/24/2009 6:02:46 PM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Chickensoup

Should have stole the 4th one.

Just to be fair. Gettin’ over on the Man.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 6:03:32 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Send Obama and his Czars to Ekaterinburg)
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To: mombyprofession

Perhaps they’d prefer the mother quit her job and become a stay-at-home mom? That dosen’t exactly square with the femnazi state, does it?


20 posted on 09/24/2009 6:03:37 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: truthguy

HA!

Kalfornia is the land of fruits and nuts that holds that record, hands down!


21 posted on 09/24/2009 6:04:36 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: truthguy

Yes, Michigan does lead the country in stupidity. And guess what? The governor is on 0bambi’s short list for Supreme Court Justice. And Ginsburg is in the hospital.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 6:06:18 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: mombyprofession
A DHS spokesperson would not comment on the specifics of the case but says they have no choice but to comply with state law...

That is a crock. Someone at DHS decided they enjoyed exercising power more than exercising common sense. It shouldn't take an appeal to a busy legislator to get a custom law to overturn someone's stupidity. A simple call to a supervisor should do it.

23 posted on 09/24/2009 6:06:30 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: FrdmLvr

Yeah, but the senate won’t confirm the governor because of that health care gag.


24 posted on 09/24/2009 6:14:09 PM PDT by goldi (')
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To: FrdmLvr

Yeah, but the senate won’t confirm the governor because of that health care gag.


25 posted on 09/24/2009 6:14:49 PM PDT by goldi (')
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To: cripplecreek
There must be some positive things coming out of Michigan but I can’t remember any.

Good I knew it couldn't be all bad. California is probably just as stupid but we have some advantages that Michigan doesn't have. We have great weather. We have a beautiful coastline with a number of great seaports. Most of the goods coming in and leaving for Pacific Ports come through CA. We have probably the best farmland in country if not the world. Granted these resources are God given and not the product of anything man has done. We also have a media that puts the best of California in the limelight.

Like Michigan People, I'm considering leaving as soon as I can arrange it. I hate living the the nanny state of California.
26 posted on 09/24/2009 6:15:11 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Chickensoup

need cough meds? go to your local flea markets! I get all I need dirt cheep. I stock up too cause I have asthma, plus my doggie takes the same thing when he gets kennel cough!


27 posted on 09/24/2009 6:15:12 PM PDT by Morgana ( Wir wollen nicht ein Forth Reich Obama!!!!)
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To: mombyprofession

Statist horse sh!t at its very worst. Before you know it, we’ll all need restaurant licenses to invite the neighbors over for dinner.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 6:16:38 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (w)
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To: Niuhuru

“Frustration is good, it leads to anger, action, and then revolution.”

Channeling Yoda: Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering.

Lol, sorry, I have been exposed to way to much Star Wars, as my kids love it.


29 posted on 09/24/2009 6:19:47 PM PDT by chickpundit (Sarah Palin - Jim Thompson 2012!)
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To: Randy Larsen

Better yet, California is like a bowl of granola. What isn’t furit and nuts is flakes.


30 posted on 09/24/2009 6:24:32 PM PDT by pcpa
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To: truthguy

If you ever get a chance to visit Michigan you might really enjoy it as far as the people and the natural beauty is concerned. We have several hundred miles of coastline including international ports. Not a wise place to move these days but you won’t find a better place for a vacation.

I’d like to see northern Ca, the sierra nevada range and I’d love to take a gander at the desert.

I grew up here and plan to stay and fight to the bitter end.


31 posted on 09/24/2009 6:25:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: mombyprofession
A DHS spokesperson would not comment on the specifics of the case but says they have no choice but to comply with state law, which is designed to protect Michigan children.

Smells like union thugs are involved. This lack of common sense is appalling, but common when unions are in the picture.

32 posted on 09/24/2009 6:27:13 PM PDT by olezip
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To: truthguy

“The state of Michigan must set the standard for stupidity.”

The state must set the standard for stupidity. Michigan is not unique.


33 posted on 09/24/2009 6:52:41 PM PDT by TrueFact (perimeter alert)
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Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate...

Lucas claptrap. Nothing wrong with anger; you just shouldn't let it fester. Righteous Indignation is a good thing. Use your emotion for motivation, and your brain for a plan of action.

Correction, Mr. Marx: "Apathy is the opiate of the masses."

34 posted on 09/24/2009 7:04:54 PM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: pcpa

Where do we conservatives fall into this mix?


35 posted on 09/24/2009 7:11:25 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

I am the token adult that waits at our neighborhood school bus stop in the morning. Eleven kids catch the bus there. I don't get paid for it, so it shouldn't be a problem, right?

I wonder how long it will be before I am told to cease and desist, because my generosity with my time might be detracting from some union thug's right to pillage taxpayers through DHS subsidies.

36 posted on 09/24/2009 7:16:51 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Randy Larsen

LOL! Love your tag line. It appears you love to offend people yet are offended easily. Irony is king.


37 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:39 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Snurple

Not really, As long as I get to dish it out equally.


38 posted on 09/24/2009 7:24:42 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: chickpundit

We’re feeling frustration, not fear.


39 posted on 09/24/2009 7:26:03 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: truthguy

I have lived here for 70 years and the only positive thing I can think of is that Coleman Young died...


40 posted on 09/24/2009 7:48:52 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: truthguy
There must be some positive things coming out of Michigan but I can’t remember any.

I hate to say it (it was a great state, once) but there are: The ones who walk away.

41 posted on 09/24/2009 7:49:14 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Should have stole the 4th one.

If I would have been in line behind you I would have just bought the 4th one and given to you.
42 posted on 09/24/2009 7:50:15 PM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (Liberals will do what they think is best for you, even if it kills you.)
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To: cripplecreek; truthguy
If you ever get a chance to visit Michigan you might really enjoy it as far as the people and the natural beauty is concerned.

I will second the latter at least, as it's been decades since my family moved away (and I wasn't old enough to stay). But I am considering taking my wife on a tour sometime soon of this beautiful state she's never seen.

43 posted on 09/24/2009 7:52:23 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Niuhuru; Nevermore

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I don’t really agree with the philosophy or sentiments expressed in the movie. The sentence structure of Niuhuru’s post reminded of Yoda’s quote. Just my apparent failed attempt at humor. Carry on.


44 posted on 09/24/2009 7:56:43 PM PDT by chickpundit (Sarah Palin - Jim Thompson 2012!)
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To: mombyprofession

whatever happened to “it takes a village”????


45 posted on 09/24/2009 8:20:13 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Lisa Snyder of Middleville says her neighborhood school bus stop is right in front of her home. It arrives after her neighbors need to be at work, so she watches three of their children for 15-40 minutes until the bus comes. The Department of Human Services received a complaint that Snyder was operating an illegal child care home.
I'd buy the video of the complainant getting dragged behind a pickup truck.
46 posted on 09/24/2009 8:31:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: mombyprofession
The Macomb county constitution is being revised and on Nov Ballot every one should vote NO!

It makes you wonder how many more counties are also doing the same thing maybe even across the country!


47 posted on 09/24/2009 11:17:58 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Da Coyote
lol Isn't that the one where they put birth control in the food supply and only allow certain people to breed and then Sylvester Stallone deliberately curses so that he'll have enough "tickets" to wipe his butt in the bathroom?

Loved that movie. lol

48 posted on 09/24/2009 11:37:36 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: mombyprofession; SunkenCiv; grellis; stayathomemom; queenkathy; Atom Smasher; All
Seems like Jenny's Nanny State strikes again! Lucky for Michigan folks that she'll be gone by the end of next year.

BTW, I've never heard of Middleville. Sounds like the the name of that town came out of a novel.

49 posted on 09/25/2009 3:14:30 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: truthguy

Best news I heard from Michigan is that lots of smart folks are fleeing....


50 posted on 09/25/2009 3:32:00 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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