[coydog]

I have a remote hope that the reed has bent so far, and will come snapping back. Would civil war and breakup be preferable to this? A very knotty question indeed.

[grey_whiskers]

I have a remote hope that the reed has bent so far, and will come snapping back. Would civil war and breakup be preferable to this? A very knotty question indeed.

We don't need civil war. We need UNCIVIL war -- of the kind begun by the 9-12 march and the ACORN tapes.

They have only flourished because they have remained hidden.

Cheers!