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Pelosi critical of Baucus bill (FR question: just how much will Hussein Deathcare™ premiums cost?)
Politico ^ | 9/17/09 | GLENN THRUSH

Posted on 09/20/2009 4:27:08 PM PDT by Libloather

Pelosi critical of Baucus bill
By GLENN THRUSH | 9/17/09 5:04 AM EDT

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s reaction to the release of the Max Baucus health care reform bill was chilly at best — with a not-so-subtle swipe at the Senate Finance Committee’s stripping away the public option preserved in current House proposals.

“As this proposal evolves, we hope to see modifications that result in the Senate bill better reflecting the work of the House to make health care more affordable for all Americans and promote competition that is key to keeping costs lower,” Pelosi said in a statement.

“I believe the public option is the best way to achieve that goal.”

Pelosi has been publicly consistent in her support for the public option despite suggestions by other Democrats in the House — led by Majority Leader Steny Hoyer — that the final House-Senate compromise could be passed without the option.

The internal Democratic House-Senate debate over the public option has been downplayed over the past week, largely overshadowed by the back and forth over Rep. Joe Wilson’s outburst. But the Baucus bill brings into clearer focus the huge distance yet to be bridged among Dems in both chambers.

On one hand, Pelosi sought to downplay those divisions, saying, “We are pleased that Sen. Baucus’s plan mirrors some key provisions in the House proposal, including sweeping insurance reforms and consumer protections.”

But she also sought to trumpet what she believes are the advantages of her approach: “The House bill clearly does more to make coverage affordable for more Americans and provides more competition to drive insurance companies to charge lower premiums and improve coverage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; baucus; bhohealthcare; deathcare; freeper; healthcare; pelosi; premiums
Yeah, I get it. Single-payer socialized medicine is FREE. Sort of - until anyone signs up for Hussein's Official Deathcare™.

Hussein has mentioned a 'nongovernmental' entity gathering the massive amount of cash sent in, but who really knows. Kinda sounds like an insurance company to me.

Baucus submits a Deathcare™ bill that ONLY costs $850 BILLION 'deficit neutral' dollars. It's pure BS which will balloon to $12 TRILLION dollars.

The Waxman/Pelosi fantasy has a price tag of around $634 billion 'deficit neutral' dollars which will balloon to $12 TRILLION dollars.

So - the so-called 'public option' will cost real American taxpayer individuals - what - $1200.00 a month? For rationed gubmint care?

Just wondering. (Oh, and are all Congress members exempt under the Baucus Deathcare™ plan - just like the Waxman/Pelosi Deathcare™ plan?)

1 posted on 09/20/2009 4:27:09 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

FR Question: Why are people so hung up on elements of the bill when the whole bill on it’s face is unconstitutional because Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not expressly list regulating health care as a power granted to Congress? Why are people not driving this point home with their politicians?


2 posted on 09/20/2009 4:30:48 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Libloather

I would be more tha happy to pay Nancy Pelosi’s bill.


3 posted on 09/20/2009 4:32:54 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (ImpeachZero)
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To: Libloather
(FR question: just how much will Hussein Deathcare™ premiums cost?)

..that's one of those pesky little questions no one is suppose to ask...the details will be "worked out" later AFTER the Bill is signed and stuffed down Americans throats

4 posted on 09/20/2009 4:36:46 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Libloather
Look, the government spends about 8K for each medicaid or medicare patient.

The Chairman says that about 30 million or 50 million, depending on who he's lying to, are uninsured. At 50 million the cost is 400 billion per year for a ten year total of 4 trillion before inflation and even more government largesse.

I know this is the old math but it still obtains. The Chairman, the left, the right and the media in general know this, they just lie about it.

5 posted on 09/20/2009 4:37:39 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what you can do for Obama.)
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To: Libloather
"...to make health care more affordable for all Americans and promote competition that is key to keeping costs lower...I believe the public option is the best way to achieve that goal.”

Excuse me? What sort of crack is Pelosi smoking?

Bringing in the Federal government--a de jure, de facto monopoly in its own right--into the business of health insurance is supposed to create competition?

Private anything is unable to compete with the Federal government, with regard to the provision of services, for three fundamental reasons: one, the Federal government prints money, by way of the Federal Reserve System; two, the Federal government makes the law; and three, the Federal government has a monopoly on the force of armed power to enforce said law.

By getting the Federal government involved, Pelosi is not creating competition; she is destroying--nay, steamrolling--the competition. Furthermore, neither the agency (or agencies) that would be charged with administering the so-called "public option" nor their employees will have any incentive whatsoever to control costs, well, except through rationing of services provided (i.e., health care services), since after all, it's the Federal government. The Federal government, with its seemingly infinite supply of resources, backed by a claim on the lives, the labor, and the property of its citizens, enforced via taxation and confiscation, has no incentive whatsoever to provide quality services at a minimum cost...or services of any reasonable quality to begin with.

Clearly, Pelosi is either full of sh*t, believes her own lies, is drunk with power, or is all of the above.

6 posted on 09/20/2009 4:39:09 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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To: Man50D; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
FR Question: Why are people so hung up on elements of the bill when the whole bill on it’s face is unconstitutional because Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not expressly list regulating health care as a power granted to Congress?

Does Nancy even KNOW about this? And would it even matter?

7 posted on 09/20/2009 5:37:39 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster)
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To: rabscuttle385
Excuse me? What sort of crack is Pelosi smoking?

The good stuff, I assume.

8 posted on 09/20/2009 5:39:52 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster)
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To: Libloather

Obamacare is sinking faster than Michael Moore in a vat of Jello.


9 posted on 09/20/2009 5:44:07 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Libloather
FR Question: How about NO STINKING BILL AT ALL?!
10 posted on 09/20/2009 5:52:47 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Liz
Obamacare is sinking faster than Michael Moore in a vat of Jello.

That image will last for days. I can't thank you enough.

11 posted on 09/20/2009 5:54:21 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster)
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To: 2111USMC
FR Question: How about NO STINKING BILL AT ALL?!

You must currently enjoy freedom and liberty. Fagetaboutit.

12 posted on 09/20/2009 5:57:16 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster)
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To: Libloather; PhilDragoo

“Obamacare is sinking faster than Michael Moore in a vat of Jello.”

We gotta get that photoshopped.


13 posted on 09/20/2009 6:08:03 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
We gotta get that photoshopped.

There's MORE? I'm trying to down some sort of dinner.

14 posted on 09/20/2009 6:17:50 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster)
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To: Libloather
Does Nancy even KNOW about this?

It's not only what she knows but also what all members of Congress know. Assuming she doesn't know, then it is up to the people to demand she abide by the Constitution.

And would it even matter?

What the people want doesn't matter to her and many other members of Congress but that hasn't stopped the people from pressuring their Congress critters on individual provisions on the bill. Given people are willing to expend all that energy, they might as well do so by emphasizing the most important, being the Constitution.
15 posted on 09/20/2009 7:10:37 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Libloather; stephenjohnbanker
“Obama’s sinking faster than Michael Moore in a vat of Jello. “

The good news is---Moore had a turkey baster in his back pocket (doesn't everybody?).

So when Moore reaches the bottom of the Jello vat, he's going to suck his way back to the top.

16 posted on 09/20/2009 11:59:57 PM PDT by Liz
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