Here is my daughter's sign from 9/12 in Ft. Worth:
Posted on 09/18/2009 6:32:58 AM PDT by markomalley
Street agitation and propaganda for freedom has a proud history in our country. Even Alinsky would have to admit that the Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre and their value as propaganda were effective ‘community level operations mobilized against the existing power structure.’
We should think W.W.S.A.D. - What Would Sam Adams (or Saul Alinsky ;)) Do?
“Keep Your Laws of My Body” sign was captioned “OK, the cognitive dissonance hasn’t hit them yet.”
I don’t think that person understands cognitive dissonance. This was “make them live up to their OWN rules” ... it was NOT cognitive dissonance.
I’d join you.
We need to “ENRON” General Electric. And we need to think about using that “study” that shows babies are born racists, therefore it isn’t learned, therefore not their fault, therefore, sympathy.
Alinsky, you magnificent bastard, we read your book.
Here is my daughter's sign from 9/12 in Ft. Worth:
The people on the left love to say: “It is better to ask forgiveness than permission.”
To them there is no truth except in a relative way. So they believe that a characterization that more or less paints a picture of the reality is ok, even if the facts are not accurate. They further believe that their goals are so noble and right that they are justified using any stretching of the truth. It is sort of like the way we tell ourselves we are not actually “Lying” when we tell our kids there is a Santa Claus because it is the sense of the “spirit” of things that makes it “true” in a different sort of way. Thus they justify the lies about Bork etc. I don’t think they think they are lying. They just redefine what lying is.
That same argument you brought up can also be used against the radical homosexuals who support ObamaCare.
Those HIV/AIDS treatments are expensive, and they too, will be rationed.
Awesome. My question for my rep. at our town hall was along the lines of "how does someone who campaigned on the right to privacy and keeping the government out of health decisions made by a woman and her doctor justify government involvment with all private health decisions?"
We totally see the irony. I know Michelle Balkman does.......
Libs otoh dont like what they see, they are the ones holding two conflicting thoughts in their mind at the same time...that alinski's methods are for them alone and... conservatives would never use these same tactic's) the feeling of uncomfortable tension which arises from this on their part indicates true CD.
I thinks its funny as hell!
“If you’re in a fair fight, your tactics suck!”
They’ve been doing this to us for a long time, but now the tides and tables have turned. Exposing their lies with their own words, is brilliant tactics. ACORN getting exposed for fraud is simply brilliant, and has force those who would not have otherwise voted for amendments to defund them, to defund them.
See, that is a brilliant and beautiful way to take on the Left.
And yes, Michele Bachmann knows it too.
She’s sharp.
Won't work for us. You know why people think Palin said that? Because the MSM repeated it endlessly. There is a massive doublestandard in the MSM, and if conservatives ignorantly walk into a trap like this, they'll come out the worse for it.
We all know the drill: Leftists lie, the MSM covers up for them. Conservatives do *anything*, the MSM tries to find a way to spin it to look bad.
Now, just imagine what would happen if we start going around telling verifiable lies? The MSM would have a field day - and we'd have bought the ammunition and loaded the gun for them. Not good. Honesty, truth, facts, reason are ALWAYS the best policy.
Who said anything about "having a discussion"? I said we need to have facts and reason on our side, instead of running around like idiots waving "Obama=Hitler" signs. We can do that just as easily by confronting a lying Congressman at a town hall - but have the added advantage that we actually have something more credible than an arsenal full of F-bombs. Get it?
Why are you opposed to facts? Why do you think reason is a bad thing? Why do you want conservatism to turn into the retarded cousin of American politics?
You are right, we can’t and should not repeat lies, the way the left does. We can use ridicule to our advantage, though. Every time a lib brings up Dead Ted, we can ask, “What is this Week-end at Bernie’s?” Everytime they bring up Bush, we can ask them to turn off the Oldies station. Just make fun of their lack of “nuance”.
I totally agree. Ridicule is, as Alinsky noted, a powerful weapon, and one which we should use to the uttermost.
A trend I'm noticing is that a lot of conservatives here are equating "using reasoned, rational arguments and facts" with "sitting down and having tea with the Democrats." That is a bogus argument. We can have reason on our side, and still use a set of rhetorical and political brass knuckles on the Dems' gonads.
Using Boyd makes the fight very unfair. The acorn vids are an example,intended or not, of Boyd’s technique.
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