Posted on 09/17/2009 1:04:46 PM PDT by AuntB
Democrat Luis Gutierrez , who happens to have been the first Latino congressman to endorse Barack Obama for president is simply outraged that the Obama administration is trying to bar illegal immigrants from private health care insurance..... this after the White House said it would move to bar illegal immigrants from buying private insurance in what's referred to as the exchange.
GUTIERREZ: On the one hand, they say they're for comprehensive immigration reform. They call gatherings together at the White House to search for a solution to comprehensive immigration reform. And on the other hand, they drive the very immigrants that they say they want to be helpful to they drive them further and further underground and further and further away from health care.
Gutierrez is accusing the White House of giving in to Representative Joe Wilson. Wilson became a household name after he yelled out "you lie" to the president over whether illegal residents would get health benefits.
Gutierrez argues unless illegal immigrants are included, they will continue to receive care at the emergency rooms...
Representative Gutierrez said that the Hispanic Congressional Caucus might want to consider using their votes on future pieces of legislation as leverage to get more concessions
DOBBS: He wants health care coverage for illegal immigrants in this country whether they be 12 or 20 million or whatever the number may be.
A "USA Today"/Gallup poll finds only 23 percent of Americans are outraged by the congressman's comment while 45 percent were not.
(Excerpt) Read more at transcripts.cnn.com ...
[snip]KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Less than a decade ago, half of Mexico's population, 50 million people, were uninsured and it was getting steadily worse, the poor getting poorer, a social crisis according to a World Bank official who specializes in Mexican health care.
KEITH HANSEN, WORLD BANK: This was unbefitting a great nation and a country that has one of the 10 or 12 largest economies in the world.
PILGRIM: The desperately poor were caught, according to Julio Frenk (ph), who led health care reform as Mexico's minister of health from 2000 to 2006. JULIO FRENK, HARVARD SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH: We were able to estimate that there were about between three and four million families every year that were thrown into poverty because they had to pay for health care.
PILGRIM: Now 35 million of the 50 million people who were previously uninsured are now covered under Mexico's new people's insurance plan. Frenk (ph) says the country is back on track to provide universal health care by the end of 2010. He is now the dean of Harvard University's School of Public Health.
FRENK: Lots of disagreements on the details, but at least there was consensus that the status quo was not an option that we couldn't continue to live in a society where you systematically exclude half of the population.
PILGRIM: Mexico still has a long way to go in terms of quality of care. Mexico only spends 6.2 percent of GDP on health care, about $97 billion, compared to 16 percent of GDP spent in the United States. That works out to $527 per each person a year compared to 7,290 in the United States.
There is one doctor to every 500 people in Mexico compared to one to 416 in the United States. Life expectancy is 76 years, two years lower than in the U.S. There are four main options for health care insurance. Just under half of people are expected to be covered under the people's insurance plan put in place in 2004.
An employer based system currently serves 40 percent of the population that makes up the working class. Government workers have their own plan. Less than five percent of people pay for private health care. A fifth of Mexicans, the poorest, are exempt from paying for health insurance. After that one pays according to income. State and federal governments also contribute to the system. Health care quality and access vary dramatically depending on the state.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Poorer states tend to have more problems, longer lines, more complaints, more stock-outs (ph) of drugs, et cetera. Things have been progressively getting better, but this remains a big challenge for the system.
PILGRIM: Now despite the reform, inefficiencies remain. It's estimated that Mexico loses more than $1 billion a year because of a lack of coordination among the different health care systems, Lou.
LOL, they eat their own.
ping
I think the solution will be
“We aren’t covering illegal aliens, we have never tried to cover illegal aliens, we will never cover illegal aliens, until we do cover them like we always have. What is the problem?”
The illegal intruder problem got winked at for a great number of years.
Now, the problem is on a collision course with a ‘national’ health care bill.
Build one track, and put two opposing trains on it and you have the same thing.
GUTIERREZ: On the one hand, they say they’re for comprehensive immigration reform. They call gatherings together at the White House to search for a solution to comprehensive immigration reform. And on the other hand, they drive the very immigrants that they say they want to be helpful to they drive them further and further underground and further and further away from health care.
The goal is to drive the illegal aliens back over the border they came in from. What’s so hard about understanding that?
0bamaCare won’t cover illegal aliens, this is true.
Because in 0bama’s America, there is no such thing as an illegal alien, unless of course, they are from Europe.
And those are the people who won’t be covered.
Include a provision in the Health Care bill that ERs will treat all patients - but that the patients MUST provide proof of citizenship.
If they cannot, the ERs call ICE and, if determined to be illegal, ICE ships their ass back to their country of origin ...
And if the illegals DO NOT go to ERs to be treated for fear of deportation - so be it ...
If they die - its their choice ...
The Health Care motto should be:
Its MY way - THEN the highway (back to your country if you are illegal) ...
There you go. All these people claiming that illegal aliens are not covered under a health care plan, and now we see that they ARE.
All they need to do is to send their health care bills to their home countries and have them pay us.
It just makes you want to scream at these people...
DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS???
Democrats don’t seem to know how to apply that word!
interesting that they spend less than 1/10 what we do on health care and yet their life expectancy is only 2 yrs. lower (figure no doubt skewed by large numbers of them living in the US most of the time)
“interesting that they spend less than 1/10 what we do on health care and yet their life expectancy is only 2 yrs. lower (figure no doubt skewed by large numbers of them living in the US most of the time)”
Figure is skewed by the large numbers of them KILLING US OFF!
Zero is muy disappointing to 20+ million foreign lawbreakers and their lahteeno supporters: they had heard
that an honest Chicago politician would stay bought.
Also,
“Gutierrez argues unless illegal immigrants are included, they will continue to receive care at the emergency rooms... “
That’s classic AuntB! Our disgruntled, south-of-the-border “guests” not only expect free health care, courtesy of Uncle Sugar/the American taxpayers, but are unhappy with having to mooch healthcare at emergency rooms and want specific physicians, appointments, prescriptions at Wal-verde, et cetera.
= path to citizenship.
Congress will pass healthcare w/o illegal aliens and then leave it to liberal judges to decree illegals must be covered because to not do so would violate their rights.
BUMP
BTT
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.