Posted on 09/14/2009 5:01:13 PM PDT by seanmerc
The RNC needs to EARN my vote, not just try to scare me into it.
Yeah, well, voting for the “least of the evils” hasn’t gotten us anywhere, has it?
This is how RINO’s get to wield power in the first place, is it not?
Without principles the party is dead.
Better to vote for what you believe in than to die a slow agonizing death from chronic compromise.
Besides, I cannot, will not, stomach supporting another RINO.
It was next to impossible for the GOP to win last year given: 1. A party has only held the WH for more than 8 years one time since ‘52 - Reagan-Bush; 2. W had horrible negatives; 3. the public was war weary; 4. a relentless MSM campaign that would’ve been unleashed against any GOPer; 5. The Sept. financial meltdown; 6. a unique opponent who was telegenic, evasive and due to his ethnicity, guaranteed to bring many people to the polls.
The only thing that McCain might have been able to do to turn the tide after Sept. was to come out against TARP.
Every RINO needs to be CHALLENGED BY A CONSERVATIVE! in the 2010 primaries.
Donate directly to the candidate.
What does party affiliation have to do with political mindset?
Ouch! So, true, so true!
That is how we got King Obama. We had voters that hated McCain so much that they were threatening to write in a candidate, vote third party, or not vote at all. Some of us tried to warn this was a vote for King Obama. And the worst is most of did not like McCain but knew that King Obama would destroy America so we were willing to go for the lesser of the evil. Rush is right, keep up this stupid crap and we will get 4 more years of King Obama. Stupid beyond belief!
It’s not an either-or thing. Rush is right, but we don’t have to put up another McCain. I say look to the example of Reagan in 1980. He beat the RINOs in the party by taking his small-government, pro-American republic message directly to the American people and building a majority with that.
He didn’t stomp out of the Party in a hissy fit or spend his time trying to defeat the milquetoast Pubbies in office. He simply and unapologetically, made his plain-spoken case to the American people.
That’s what we need to do and support candidates in doing, and all of this Democrats and Republicans are morally relatively equivalent is dangerous hogwash. A third-party would be a killer to this country right now, because it would cement the Marxists in power.
There of course is some correlation between party an mindset.
that’s strange revisionism. third parties had nothing to do with Obama’s victory. John “bailout” McCain would not have been any better. Just because you voted for a socialist to stop another socialist, don’t blame us because your guy lost.
How many times have we seen the following unfold though?
Many elections of the last few years seem to wind up as “conservative vs. RINO” in the primary, and when the RINO wins, out come the demands that the conservative’s voters now support the RINO vs. the Democrat Party candidate. RINO gets elected, pisses off conservatives to no end while in office, then comes fund-raising to said conservatives at reelection time.
And when the conservative wishes to challenge the RINO again in a primary, he is actively discouraged by party leaders to avoid going into the general election battered and broke.
How do we break this cycle?
“RINO’s” aren’t just politicians.
The problem here is that a large part of the electorate - that part of which is needed to achieve power - ARE “Rinos” themselves.
And unless we want to forfeit power for the sake of impotent virtue, then we must come to an accomodation with these people, which requires compromise, and if need be the election of a fair number of “RINO’s”.
I think a 3rd party could win. The first time Perot ran, he was running away with the polls - until his inner moonbat started to reveal itself.
The principal is sound, but three parties just cannot work. It would give the elections to the weakest candidate about 60% of the time in my opinion.
If a large enough block of voters can leave the Republican party to form a party more powerful than the current pubbie party, then why not stay in it and change it?
He never said re-elect Rinos.
Rush is right 99.1%
I also agree with Rush. As much as I dislike McCain, had he been elected we’d be in a far far different place as a nation right now.
“The RNC needs to EARN my vote, not just try to scare me into it.”
You said it.
Besides, if all they offer is what they’re offering right now, then what’s the point?
They are doing nothing to fight this. They’re allowing the average Joe, and his favorite talk show host, to twist in the wind, to fend for themselves.
Isn’t that why we elected these people?
“Go GOP! Sis, boom, rah!” my *ss!
Represent something or I’m staying home to press my uniform on election day.
An “R” beside their name + Your vote = Not a damn thing if they don’t follow through on principle.
In one of the few times he was mistaken William F. Buckley Jr. pushed this kind of approach by saying that what we needed to do was go over to a parliamentary system.
This is the wrong approach. Here's why.
In a large Republic such as ours, it isn't going to be possible to get all conservatives or all conservative leaning people to agree on everything. [The same thing is going on with the Leftists right now.] In a multi-party system, that means you must invariably make alliances with like minded parties. It also means that voters don't know, in advance, what kind of government they're going to wind up with, even as late as election day; they must wait until the governing coalition is assembled after the votes are all counted.
You can bemoan the lack of purity in the present system all you like, but if you're a well-informed voter you at least know going into the election what you're going to wind up with before you cast your vote.
Our way is better.
Imagine what would happen if the RINOs or Blue Dogs started their own party, and a handful of votes in the tail could routinely wag the dog, even after you'd picked your guy. That is the reality of a multi-party system.
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