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Terrorist Watch List Gun ban
(info@gunalerts.com) | 09/11/2009 | Alan Gottlieb

Posted on 09/11/2009 7:23:02 AM PDT by Sensei Ern

'CZAR' Sunstein Shoots Himself In The Foot

Gun Hater Lautenberg Proposes "Extraordinary Powers" Be Given To the U.S. Attorney General To Limit Gun Sales.

Obama and the White House are looking the other way as Lautenberg seeks to ban guns from 1,000,000 US citizens on a secret FBI terrorist watch list. Obama has deliberately and repeatedly lied to America's 90 million gun owners across the country when he insisted that he would not try to take away anyone's firearms. Now Obama's silence endorses Lautenberg's latest attempt at banning guns.

Lautenberg has now introduced bill S. 1317 that would give the attorney general the discretion to block gun sales to people on terror watch lists. We must defeat this bill from giving extraordinary powers to limit gun sales to the Attorney General.

Fax NOW - Get Your Name Off The List STOP Lautenberg's Attorney General Gun Grab Select Here to Reject AG Gun Ban and Fax All 99 Senators

Lautenberg To Reveal Names on Secret List

The names of the people on the watch list are secret, and Lautenberg said he was frustrated by the F.B.I.'s refusal to disclose to investigators details and specific cases of gun purchases beyond the aggregate data.

Gun hater Lautenberg requested the gun grab study from the Government Accountability Office. He is using statistics, compiled in the report that is scheduled for public release next week to invade US citizen's privacy and put more restrictions on the Second Amendment.

Lautenberg said he wanted a better understanding of who is being allowed to buy guns.

How you ask? Trial by innuendo and misinformation that has put 1,000,000 Americans and maybe even you on a terrorist watch list without your knowledge by saying: people placed on this government's terrorist watch list can be stopped from getting on a plane or getting a visa, and will also be stopped from buying a gun.

Lautenberg wants gun purchases stopped for just being on the list. Current law states federal officials must find some other disqualification of a would-be gun buyer, like being a felon, an illegal alien or a drug addict.

Is your name on the list and can you get it removed?

The government's consolidated watch list, used to identify people suspected of links to terrorists, has grown to more than one million names since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It also has drawn widespread criticism over the prevalence of mistaken identities and unclear links to terrorism.

A CNN story raises questions about mistaken identities on the list - James Robinson is a retired Air National Guard brigadier general and a commercial pilot for a major airline who flies passenger planes around the country.

James Robinson is a retired brigadier general and a commercial pilot. His name is on the terrorist "watch list."

He has even been certified by the Transportation Security Administration to carry a weapon into the cockpit as part of the government's defense program should a terrorist try to commandeer a plane.

But there's one problem: James Robinson, the pilot, has difficulty even getting to his plane because his name is on the government's terrorist "watch list."

That means he can't use an airport kiosk to check in; he can't do it online; he can't do it curbside. Instead, like thousands of Americans whose names match a name or alias used by a suspected terrorist on the list, he must go to the ticket counter and have an agent verify that he is James Robinson, the pilot, and not James Robinson, the terrorist.

"Shocking's a good word; frustrating," Robinson -- the pilot -- said. "I'm carrying a weapon, flying a multimillion-dollar jet with passengers, but I'm still screened as, you know, on the terrorist watch list."

Fax NOW - Get Your Name Off The List STOP Lautenberg's Attorney General Gun Grab Select Here to Reject AG Gun Ban and Fax All 99 Senators

History Repeating Itself?

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit."

Lautenberg Must be Stopped

Recently Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) have joined Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy, to introduce legislation to eliminate the private transfers of firearms and close the nation's "gun show loophole."

This Senate bill is in the Judiciary Committee, chaired by anti-gun liberal Democrat Leahy. Lautenberg's gun hate is well documented and he says you are irrational if you support private gun sales. "There is no rational reason to oppose closing the loophole. The reason it's still not closed is simple: the continuing power of the special interest gun lobby in Washington" Sen. Lautenberg said ignoring the Constitution. Fax NOW - Get Your Name Off The List STOP Lautenberg's Attorney General Gun Grab Select Here to Reject AG Gun Ban and Fax All 99 Senators

Lautenberg and the Gun Grabbers in the Senate are now tying to use the GAO to justify putting Americans on a secret gun ban list.

LAUTENBERG'S MOTIVES

Motives for his latest gun ban to are twofold: First, he is taking small steps to enact gun control legislation this is just one step. Second, eradicate the gun culture altogether. All that seems to be on the minds of the Anti-Gun Senators and at the offices of gun control extremists is figuring out how to invade your privacy to erode and eventually destroy the right, and the means, of self-defense.

Now the Anti-Gun Coalitions are trying to use a self supporting GAO study to destroy the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms to protect themselves under the law. They are attacking and hiding behind an Anti-Terrorist Agenda while getting political and financial support from:

George Soros a Hungarian-born billionaire bank rolling efforts with his check book and spending more that $100 million to destroy the Constitution.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) admitted that "guns would be banned and confiscated" if she could have her way.

The United Nations actively pushes globalism seeking to disarm all Americans.

We must Stop the Anti-Gun Coalition and get ready for the biggest gun control fight of the year from coast to coast. We can not do that without your support.

Stand up against this attack! Stand up for the right to not only defend yourself, but to defend your family, your children, your friends, and your classmates!

Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill from giving extraordinary powers to limit gun sales to the Attorney General.

In order to stop Lautenberg and his fellow gun-grabbers-we need to let the Congress know with thousands of faxes telling them to leave guns alone.

Americans like you who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation…and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands.

Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

Keep calling your Senators today, toll free numbers include 1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121 AND REGISTER YOU'RE OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to take guns away!

CALL PRESIDENT Obama, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS.

DO NOT BE SILENCED - MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

Remember, protecting our freedom is not inexpensive.

But then, it's impossible to put a price tag on freedom.

Together, we can preserve the Constitutional rights our Founding Fathers intended our people to have forever.

Please let me know your decision right away. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Alan Gottlieb Chairman Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; banglist; bho44; bhoczars; bradywatch; congress; cwii; democratcongress; democrats; donttreadonme; ericholder; feinstein; fundedbysoros; georgesoros; gungrabbing; helmke; holder; jackreed; lautenberg; lping; obama; rapeofliberty; s1317; soros; terroristwatchlist
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I was sent this via email. Is there truth to it?

Half way through, it mentions a James Robinson being on the Terrorist Watch List.

I tried to eliminate all the references to a request for donations from the group that sent this to me. I apologize if I missed any.

1 posted on 09/11/2009 7:23:02 AM PDT by Sensei Ern
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To: Sensei Ern

Thanks, Lautenberg. Now I can sleep knowing Cat Stevens.....errrr.....Yusuf Islam won’t be able to buy a gun. After all.....it’s a wild world.


3 posted on 09/11/2009 7:29:06 AM PDT by edpc (Spay and neuter your liberals)
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To: Sensei Ern

I wonder if there are any Muslims or Illegals on the terrorist watch list. Or Crips, or Bloods, or New Black Panthers.


4 posted on 09/11/2009 7:29:14 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sensei Ern

I wonder which James Robinson is on the watch list. Maybe he’s one of Obama’s “White Devil” terrorists.


5 posted on 09/11/2009 7:30:10 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Sensei Ern

At LEAST they didn’t name Jim Thompson!!!


6 posted on 09/11/2009 7:36:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: Sensei Ern

Just as long as Jim Thompson isn’t on the list...


7 posted on 09/11/2009 7:36:35 AM PDT by Clink (The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.)
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To: Cicero
I wonder if there are any Muslims or Illegals on the terrorist watch list. Or Crips, or Bloods, or New Black Panthers.

Of course not. That would be "profiling."

8 posted on 09/11/2009 7:37:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (This Revolution will be peaceful if possible; other than peaceful if necessary.)
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To: Cicero
I wonder if there are any Muslims or Illegals on the terrorist watch list. Or Crips, or Bloods, or New Black Panthers.

Of course not. That would be "profiling."

10 posted on 09/11/2009 7:38:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (This Revolution will be peaceful if possible; other than peaceful if necessary.)
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At LEAST they didn’t name Jim Thompson!!!

That is what I was thinking. I am not sure why they target this Jim Robinson dude. All MSNBC viewers know Jim Thompson is da man!

11 posted on 09/11/2009 7:39:26 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Sensei Ern
NOT GUILTY!



12 posted on 09/11/2009 7:42:46 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: Sensei Ern

This post is quite accurate. And the proposed law is even worse than the author writes. Were your name ever added to the list, the government would NOT be required to tell you WHY! Now would it be required to defend its actions in court. All of this would remain SECRET, the excuse being “national security.” So getting your name off of the list would be close to impossible, unless you happened to have the right friends in the right places. This is clearly just an end run around the 2nd amendment. And should it become law, the time to go to DC would be NOW!


13 posted on 09/11/2009 7:44:12 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Sensei Ern
Why did the stupid Senators ever approve him? I'm letting them know I am unhappy with their decision.

U. S. Senate

14 posted on 09/11/2009 7:44:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cicero

Also NOT included on list:

1) Leftist hollywood celebrities

2) Congress

3) Those protecting themselves from the ‘Christian Taliban’

4) Abortion preforming doctors

5) UN Diplomats from Middle East


15 posted on 09/11/2009 7:51:53 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you aware of this? Do they try to stop you from flying?


16 posted on 09/11/2009 7:53:54 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: Sensei Ern

“The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to “...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit.”

Lautenberg Must be Stopped”

ARE ALL OF YOU THAT LAUGH AT US TRYING TO WARN AMERICANS OF THE FASCIST TAKE OVER OF THE COUNTRY STILL LAUGHING???????


18 posted on 09/11/2009 7:56:28 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: edpc
Now I can sleep knowing Cat Stevens.....errrr.....Yusuf Islam won’t be able to buy a gun. After all.....it’s a wild world.

It won't stop him from slipping tea to the tillerman.
19 posted on 09/11/2009 7:57:22 AM PDT by kenavi (No legislation longer than the Constitution.)
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To: Sensei Ern

Sad but true..

S.1317
Title: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.
Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] (introduced 6/22/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.R.2159
Latest Major Action: 6/22/2009 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.


20 posted on 09/11/2009 7:57:26 AM PDT by SSG_1776
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