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To: Tolik
In my conversations with liberal friends I love to contrast ideas and world-changing consequences of American and French revolutions followed by a progress of democracy on one hand and bloody revolutions like Bolsheviks’ on another.

Myself, I tend to lump the French Revolution in the bloody group, considering that it (like the Russian) fell into the mold of cult-leader and the spread of 'freedom' by the sword. Just because Napoleon tended to kill Germans and Russions and English rather than French doesn't make him any less of a bloody bastard than Stalin. The Russian revolution was just a climax of the French revolution as modified by Marx. Had Trotsky beaten Stalin, the Russian revolution would have been as outward looking as Napolean.

11 posted on 09/10/2009 7:21:15 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke

You are right. I was not clear. Of course, the French revolution goes into the bloody corner. Trotsky was a military commander for Reds during the Civil War and proved himself being bloody as hell. He was also a proponent of a “military communism”. He only mellowed (relatively speaking) after losing the rat fight to Stalin.


12 posted on 09/10/2009 7:29:11 AM PDT by Tolik
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