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Boston’s Roman Catholic Cardinal Says He Confronted Obama about Abortion in Health Care Plan....
CNSNews.com ^ | September 04, 2009 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 09/04/2009 12:31:55 PM PDT by kingattax

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By the way, there's now 33 bishops on record opposing ObamaCare, and ---despite the bafflegab equivocation of many--- none (-0-) on record supporting healthcare reform "in its present form."

The 33 who have made statement in "prudential opposition", found at Ed Peters' "American Papist" blog, include:

Cardinal Justin Rigali of Philadelphia, PA and Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre, NY

Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver, CO

Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York, NY

Bishop Walker Nickless of Sioux City, IA

Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo, ND

Bishop Richard Pates of Des Moines, IA

Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS and Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO

Archbishop John Nienstedt of St. Paul-Minneapolis, MN

Bishop Paul Loverde of Arlington, VA

Bishop Robert Guglielmone of Charleston, SC

Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland, OH

Bishop Peter Jugis of Charlotte, NC and Bishop Michael Burbidge of Raleigh, NC

Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse, WI

Bishop Blase Cupich of Rapid City, SD

Bishop Donald Trautman of Erie, PA

Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh, PA

Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, CT

Bishop Thomas Doran of Rockford, IL

Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, NJ
Part II from Bishop Serratelli here

Bishop Anthony Taylor of Little Rock, AR

Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison, WI

Bishop Paul Coakley of Salina, KS

Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio, TX and Bishop Oscar Cantu of San Antonio, TX

Archbishop George Lucas of Omaha, NE

Bishop Alex Sample of Marquette, MI

Bishop Victor Galeone of St. Augustine, FL

Bishop David Choby of Nashville, TN

Bishop Gerald Barnes of San Bernardino, CA

Bishop Peter Sartain of Joliet, IL

Please send me tips to "thomas [at] americanpapist.com".
Thank you!

21 posted on 09/04/2009 1:42:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I want to see Cardinal George of Chicago,
who’s the head of the National Council of
Catholic Bishops, come out strong against
this.

He also needs to officially castigate Fr.
Pfleger for his heretical words and deeds.


22 posted on 09/04/2009 1:49:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Apparently, Drinan was one of the “enlightened.” He personally opposed abortion, (gee, how righteous and Catholic of him) but said the moral issue was separate from the legal.

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I will paste wiki’s portion below: Robert Drinan

Drinan’s consistent support of abortion rights drew significant opposition from Church leaders throughout his political career, who had also repeatedly requested that he not hold political office in the first place.

Drinan attempted to reconcile his position with official Church doctrine by stating that while he was personally opposed to abortion, considering it “virtual infanticide,”its legality was a separate issue from its morality.

This argument failed to satisfy his critics. According to the Wall Street Journal, Drinan played a key role in the pro-choice platform becoming a common stance with politicians in the Kennedy family.

In 1980, Pope John Paul II unequivocally demanded that all priests withdraw from electoral politics. Drinan complied and did not seek reelection. “’It is just unthinkable,’ he said of the idea of renouncing the priesthood to stay in office. ‘I am proud and honored to be a priest and a Jesuit. As a person of faith I must believe that there is work for me to do which somehow will be more important than the work I am required to leave.’”

Following his death, members of Congress honored Drinan’s memory with a moment of silence on the House floor on January 29, 2007.


23 posted on 09/04/2009 1:50:37 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (WORLD CHAMPIONS - Park View Little League - Chula Vista, CA !!!!!!)
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To: elizabethgrace

Such disingenuous garbage ... he obviously
became more the politician, wandering far
from his priestly vows .. and I do remember
the sickening honor and vaulted status he
achieved by his fellow babykillers.

Wonder where he is now ?


24 posted on 09/04/2009 1:57:30 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: capydick

Cardinal O’Malley is a pretty straight shooter. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got up in Obama’s face - politely.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Obama “laughed his ass off...when (O’Malley’s) back was turned.”


25 posted on 09/04/2009 2:09:52 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right,...exercise...die anyway.)
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To: stevem

Whoever paid for your education is due a refund.


26 posted on 09/04/2009 2:12:20 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: STARWISE
Write him! E-mail him! Pray for him! Push him!

His Eminence Francis Cardinal George, OMI
Archdiocese of Chicago
P.O. Box 1979
Chicago, IL 60690-1979
phone: 312-751- 8200
email: mfox@archchicago.org

27 posted on 09/04/2009 2:14:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Another one of your intelligent and to-the-point posts.

You never fail us, and I thank God for that. :-)


28 posted on 09/04/2009 2:23:16 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

Thanks for the kind words.


29 posted on 09/04/2009 2:26:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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Catholic Ping
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30 posted on 09/04/2009 3:00:48 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent.


31 posted on 09/04/2009 3:09:42 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kingattax

Note: when you agree to play chess with the devil, he will win every time.


32 posted on 09/04/2009 3:11:12 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("it can never happen here.")
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To: kingattax
"...had he placed the issue of life at the centerpiece of the Social Gospel where it belongs, he could have multiplied the immensely valuable work he accomplished.”

Ha, yeah. Instead of having the opposite effect.

33 posted on 09/04/2009 3:13:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("it can never happen here.")
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To: kingattax

Good thing Kennedy was buried at Arlington National because if he didn’t confess to the sin of murder and ask for forgiveness, would that have caused a problem being buried in a Catholic cemetery?


34 posted on 09/04/2009 4:03:32 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: stop_fascism

“We, Cardinals and Arch-Bishops, have been trying to destroy the church for 2000 years. We haven’t succeeded, and you won’t either.”

Good one! All the human frailty in the world can’t bring down the Catholic Church. Christ prayed to the Father that it would last to the end of time.


35 posted on 09/04/2009 5:14:43 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: DRey

You are very wise, DRey. This Catholic thanks you.


36 posted on 09/04/2009 5:16:52 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: kingattax

O’Malley like so many of our illustrious and courageous bishops misses the point. It is IRRELEVANT to Kenndedy’s funeral whether or not he was repentent before his death and confessed his sins. That is a PRIVATE affair. What disqualifies him from a PUBLIC funeral is the fact that Kennedy was a prominent (in some people’s eyes) PUBLIC figure and because he was a PUBLIC figure, his being a so-called Catholic and advancing PUBLIC support for abortion (a heinous sin in the Catholic Church) caused a PUBLIC scandal and a scandal within the Church itself. It was these PUBLIC positions on abortion that REQUIRED Kennedy to make a PUBLIC declaration of disavowing his PUBLIC position before he would warrant a PUBLIC funeral. Please, someone get this message to O’Malley before he plans the funerals for Biden and Pelosi.


37 posted on 09/04/2009 5:22:04 PM PDT by veritas2002
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Mrs. Don-o, by their fruits you will know them. Looking at those two funerals, I would say Eunice was the real Catholic. Her funeral was dignified, traditional, and humble. She went to her maker in quiet Catholic humility, despite her “birthright.”

Teddy got all his glory here on Earth. He squeezed every ounce of favor and special treatment he could out of being a Kennedy. That funeral squeezed the last drop of celebrity and pomp out of his existence. It was a showy farce presided over by a faux Catholic. There aren’t really even supposed to be eulogies at a Catholic funeral. You do that at the Rosary vigil the night before. Having Obama speak was the unmistakable sign that this whole funeral, and that whole life, was an empty spiritual exercise.

I don’t know how God will judge Teddy or if he went to Hell, but I know he didn’t have a good grasp on what it means to be Catholic.


38 posted on 09/04/2009 5:26:36 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: kingattax
The Bishops are starting to get some spine! Keep praying for them to speak out against Obamacare.

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39 posted on 09/04/2009 6:05:09 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: kingattax

Please, what nonsense.

Go look at the Cardinal’s blog.

In the adoring entries you’ll find the answer to the question: I wonder what the old Holy Name Society and Ladies’ Guild members would do if they ever figured out how computers worked?

He usually writes about the architecture of a church in West Roxbury or how nice the chicken salad was at some convent jubilee.

For years, NEVER a confrontation with either Kennedy or Kerry or, while he lived, the despicable Drinan.

And I saw the “confrontation” with Obama before the funeral.

It didn’t exactly look like Leo the Great facing Atilla the Hun.

As a priest once said to me, “Obeying these guys is one thing, but respecting them ....?”


40 posted on 09/04/2009 7:30:42 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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