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To: GVnana

There will something that will eventually become the public option. This was talked about last week. I forget the name of it.


2 posted on 09/01/2009 8:22:17 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

KILL THE BILL


6 posted on 09/01/2009 8:23:12 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: rawhide

Last week there being discussed a plan about having co-ops instead of the public-option plan. Same pig with different lip-stick.


23 posted on 09/01/2009 8:30:35 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide; All

Is this the thread you are thinking of....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2329070/posts

STATE SENATOR Obama Tried the Same Rhetoric in Sneak Health “Trojan Horse” Through Illinois Senate
Chicago Sun Times/The Lid ^ | 8/31/09 | The Lid

Posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 8:22:56 PM by Shellybenoit

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Back in 2004, Barack Obama was an Illinois State Senator, and an announced candidate for the US Senate. The future POTUS introduced a health care bill to revolutionize the health insurance industry in his state, kind of a proto-Obamacare bill.

The Republican opposition realized the way the bill was written it was just a Trojan horse leading to a state-run insurance company that would put private insurers in Illinois out of business and eventually a single-payer system (sound familiar?) Just before the vote, Obama debated the bill with State Senator Peter Roskam (now in Congress) on the floor of the State Senate (listen to the debate below)

What is truly incredible is that the Illinois health care debate was almost a dry run for the national debate we are having today.


36 posted on 09/01/2009 8:38:59 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: rawhide
Yea it's called blame it on the Insurance companies !
73 posted on 09/01/2009 9:04:59 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to ... remain silent.)
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To: rawhide

I think co-ops is the name you are looking for which is just another name for public option.


74 posted on 09/01/2009 9:06:19 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: rawhide

Of course it will eventually become the single payer, public option if this healthcare “reform” debacle is passed under any circumstances. Muslims (like hussein 0bozo) are granted the right to lie under the Koran, in order to achieve their ends.


83 posted on 09/01/2009 9:11:56 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rawhide

public option 6.0


107 posted on 09/01/2009 9:39:47 PM PDT by woofie
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To: rawhide

Yes, its called a ‘’co-op ‘’ or ‘’COMMUNIST OPTION’’. That will eventually morph into a ‘’Single Payer’’ that will soon become ‘’ Univeral ‘’ health care for all including illegal aliens,,,,,,you see its all basically the same thing to me ‘’A CRAP BILL’’! KILL THE BILL!!!


148 posted on 09/02/2009 12:55:28 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: rawhide
There will something that will eventually become the public option. This was talked about last week. I forget the name of it.

Gov regulated Co-ops.

154 posted on 09/02/2009 3:15:01 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: rawhide

Co-ops, I believe.

What we need is a competitive health insurance market, such as the ability to buy insurance over state lines. We need real tort reform, meaning real limits on punitive damages. Third, ERs need to start charging all comers without private insurance $100 for non-emergency visits, such as when little Juan has the sniffles or Jose stubbed his toe. If the illegals and the Medi-caid patients had to pay $100 for an ER visit for non-life threatening issues, those ERs would thin out to about half the demand overnight. Also, insurance companies need to lighten up on the pre-existing conditions denials of care. Finally, Medi-caid and Medi-care fraud should become a priority investigated by REAL investigators who know what they’re doing. The savings could be used by Medi-caid and Medi-care to pay a larger fee for services rather than the pittance the providers get now, which creates a loss passed on to paying customers. A combination of those few changes would probably cut costs by a minimum of a third in short order. With lower costs, more people would buy insurance.


156 posted on 09/02/2009 3:25:15 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: rawhide

Co-ops are the Trojan horse for the public option which is a Trojan horse for socialized medicine. Now’s the time to step up the battle against co-ops.


174 posted on 09/02/2009 8:20:49 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: rawhide

BEWARE OF THE ROPE-A-DOPE!

Almost a month ago after the Town Hall protests took the Democrats by surprise. Obama put out a trial balloon via his Health Secretary. The result of that Trial Balloon was to get the left wing base fired up. And once the far left wing screamed like banshees, the trial balloon was taken down and then denied. I do think one other reason for the stunt is to mobilize the left base. But 3-4 weeks later their numbers at the Town Halls are still small and those there are mostly paid SEIU and ACORN people bused in.

One of the biggest things the lib base has overlooked is how most intelligent people can see right thru most propaganda. When you have UNION and ACORN people wearing their organization’s hats and/or shirts all holding professionally made signs where most have Obama’s “Seal of Stupidity” Logo and opposite to them are seniors, stay at home moms, average people taking time from their day holding homemade signs.

Back to my point, I think this is a last gasp effort to get the Left Wing mobilized, but they are not there. His polls have tanked so bad that unless he gets a vocal crowd like he had for his election, he’s toast. I don’t think they will materialize. But now Obama will but heads with Pelosi and Reid and that should be interesting to watch.

So Obama can either pull back the trial balloon later today or leave it out there for a day or two to get the progressives fired up.

DO NOT LOWER YOUR GUARD!


176 posted on 09/02/2009 8:32:36 AM PDT by TheShaz
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To: rawhide
There never was a "public" option....it was a "GOVERNMENT" option.
186 posted on 09/02/2009 1:50:35 PM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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