Posted on 08/24/2009 11:41:07 AM PDT by Brugmansian
“Does that really sound like the normal flu to you?”
Do you know of anyone who has died of this? Do you even know anyone who’s gotten this flu?
The government tells me 47 million people are without health insurance. Do you believe that number?
The government tells me that passing the healthcare package will reduce government expenditures. Do you believe that?
I go by what I see.
Two items that differ between H1N1 and the usual seasonal flu - the mortality rate is higher, and H1N1 is killing healthy young adults, not only the very young, very old, and those with other serious health problems. That's why medical organizations such as WHO and the CDC are so concerned.
Our healthcare system may be somewhat inadequate, but we are going to have more doses of flu vaccine than we have people. We’re going to have 50.4 million doses and we’ve only got 33 million people. Apparently, we set up a deal with Glaxo-Smith-Kline in 2001 that insured we would be provided with more than enough shots if a pandemic ever occurred. It probably cost us a bundle, but apparently it’s now paying off.
Do you know of anyone who has died of this? Do you even know anyone who’s gotten this flu?
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No.
Yes.
I can’t comment. I died in the great west nile virus pandemic a few years back.
The deathrate is rising with the use of the vaccine.
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Are all of your opinions so studiously researched? Tell me about this H1N1 vaccine that is killing people.
I know clinical trials are ongoing, but the CDC suggests that by late September the vaccination may be available, but likely in October.
What vaccine are you talking about?
That's a 0.01% increase in lethality every 24 hours.
At the current linear rate of increase, mutated H1N1 strains' mortality rate (currently 1%) will be 2% within 12 weeks.
If the rate of increase is in fact non-linear, and the rate of change is viewed as a raw percentage of the mortality rate *increase*, we see the difference between .82% and .98% as an increase of approximately 20% over 15 days. If this rate is maintained, H1N1 mutates to a 2% mortality rate, 2 out of 100 people dying from it anywhere on the planet, by Oct 7, 2009. After that, it goes to 4% by Oct. 21, 2009, 8% by Nov. 5, 2009, and 15% by November 20.
Basically unbounded vectoring all around the planet and this mutation rate mean 1.25 billion people die of the "flu" before Christmas 2010.
Hopefully you didn't have your "gas mask and vitamin D3" money in Guaranty Financial Group, which went belly up August 22, 2009 (New Zealand time).
Next date to watch: October 7, 2009
“I can’t comment. I died in the great west nile virus pandemic a few years back.”
Funny.
The bird flu got me.
“Basically unbounded vectoring all around the planet and this mutation rate mean 1.25 billion people die of the “flu” before Christmas 2010.”
And the upper limit is 100%. Therefore, we are all going to die from this.
“too much could go wrong” If they have the cure & control it they could take out their enemies or anyone they deem inconvenient. (If obama think its ok to kill babies after a botched abortion and his ideologues think its ok to kill those who “are not aware” and those who are too expensive to care for.)
“puppeteers” making money” I think he passed much of it out already and look at the people who are leftist who got it. We are 10 trillion in debt.
“What benefit for them would it be for the economy”
I think they want to destroy the economy. I know how that sounds, but if they can't take over like hitler did (we only have 25% who think obama is god)
Then they must control us another way.
How many times have we heard the leftist say we have 6 billion people in this world & there should only be 1 billion. Have you seen there TV show series, “What the world would be without people” These people have no conscience. They have power and a leftist vision and will do whatever they need to get there.
No, the death rate should be much higher. I have yet to read an article that doesn’t say the patient had H1N1, *BUT* he died from other complications.
I’m sure it’s way under 1%, far less than half that. We had H1N1 in our area, and the hospitals and doctors and health departments were telling people “just stay home” unless something is really wrong like difficulty breathing, profound weakness, etc. So the people getting tested are the panickers and the dangerously sick but only a small minority of those who actually had the flu got tested.
Our town of 20,000 - I guess between 5 and 20% got sick. No one died.
I've been nauseous since early November.
Just last week, there were several confirmed cases and others with symptoms in two local schools. Classes have just started so I do indeed expect an increase in cases.
Yesterday, Dr. Whatshisface older round face guy that does Fox News was saying if H1N1 mutates, then the current vacines will be worthless.
Yes, I do know 3 who were diagnosed just last week.
The local news warned students to wash hands and don’t share food and stay home if you’re sick because there have been confirmed cases. At the end of the segment, they then told kids to become “flu buddies” and take soup to their sick friends.... sigh....
“then the current vacines will be worthless.”
The *normal* failure rate for a relatively good vaccine is about 30%.
If it’s like the one they pushed on people in the ‘70s, it might kill-sicken more people then the flu itself.
... and now this. Every one of these diseases hit the headlines BIG sometime in the last 35 years. Every one of them scared a good part of the population silly. None of them ended up being the Great Killer we all feared. I'm sorry, but I'm too old to let my heart go “pitter-pat” every time people get ramped up over “THE *NEXT* GREAT PANDEMIC”...
The fact is that it's too soon to tell how bad this will be. It's not a horrible killer like some of the other baddies out there that have 30-90% mortality. The odds are that it will mutate to a *less* virulent strain (as most viruses do - the 1918 flu was the exception, not the norm).
We just need to take care of ourselves, wash our hands and stay out of populated places when we are sick.
My husband has a co-worker who's wife had confirmed Swine Flu. She had a bad week, then went back to work. Her husband didn't get sick and neither did her co-workers. So much for it being the most highly contagious bug out there.
Could this become much worse? Sure. Anything can happen, but the odds are in our favor. Will people die? Yup. But people die all the time. Will this become the next plague and wipe out 1/3rd of the population? No. It will not.
There are many more pressing and serious things to be worried about than the flu. (And I'm speaking as a parent of two kids who're missing part of their immune systems and who are highly vulnerable to this kind of thing.) If it gets worse, we'll deal with it. If people are really worried they can buy a course of Tamiflu off the Internet to keep handy.
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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/oracle/9941/
I go there every time I get stressed about all the doom and gloom. :-)
My husband’s co-worker’s wife had confirmed Swine Flu about 6 weeks back. She had a bad week, then went back to work.
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