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Lies, lies and more lies
The American Thinker ^ | August 16, 2009 | David Hass

Posted on 08/16/2009 2:52:19 AM PDT by Scanian

President Obama's lies in Montana were the most egregious falsehoods since Bill Clinton said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".

The current President was asked how the government is going to pay for the $1 trillion in new health care expenditures under HR 3200. Watch the video here.

Part of the President's answer included blaming a previous administration. Oh no, he's not blaming Bush again, is he?

Well, as it turns out, the previous administration was Bill ("depends on what the meaning of is is") Clinton's.

The current President claims that we can save $60 billion per year by "eliminating subsidies to big insurance companies". Subsidies? What subsidies?

In the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, during Bill Clinton's term, Medicare was changed to allow Medicare beneficiaries to choose to receive their benefits through competing private insurance plans. In other words, introduce market forces into a socialized medicine system, the opposite of what the President wants to do now. Over the next decade this was changed a few more times until it became known as Medicare Advantage (pdf).

Dr. John Kern explains why he feels Medicare Advantage is better for patients than regular public option Medicare.

Currently, 20 percent of Medicare beneficiaries have chosen Medicare Advantage over the standard Medicare public option program. The government pays for Medicare Advantage insurance coverage by paying private insurance companies for the services they provide to their beneficiaries. This is not a subsidy, it is a reimbursement. Lies, lies and more lies.

The private insurance companies approved for Medicare Advantage operate in a tightly regulated, closely audited environment. If there is waste in the system, one would assume that the Medicare administrators would have already wrung that out of the system.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; bhotownhalls; bs; demlies; healthcare; medicareadvantage; mtmeeting; obama

1 posted on 08/16/2009 2:52:21 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

costs are always in the trillions, savings are in the billions.

does this flipping administration have any idea how many billion are in a trillion?


2 posted on 08/16/2009 2:55:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Scanian
One of Obama's (and the MSM's) FAKE "doctors"
in their plan to exterminate Obama-selected elderly and conservative adults.


Obama "Doctor": "Yes, I delivered Obama, in Hawaii,
with Morgan Fairchild assisting, and we put in on computer disc at the time, ....."



"That's right. And as a result I have given Miss... I mean "Doctor" Roxana Mayer
full dispensation to practice medicine and surgery in all 57 states."

3 posted on 08/16/2009 3:06:41 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Scanian
David Hass ruins his entire article by not getting simple facts right. Pelosi didn't become Speaker until the Republicans lost their majority in 2006 (elected in 2006, sworn in 2007); prior to that she was House Minority Leader. She took over that position when Dick Gephart resigned in 2003 to run for president.

"The President then went on to excoriate the previous administration (this time it was "Blame Bush") for passing the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act in 2003. Is he lying when he blames Bush?

Yes and no. The law was first brought to Congress in 1997 during Bill (you know what goes here) Clinton's second term. It took 6 years of Congressional debate before it was hammered through in 2003. Though the Republicans held a majority in the Senate that year, guess who had the majority in the House? You guessed it - the Democrats. And who was Speaker of the House in 2003? You guessed it again -- Nancy ("protestors are carrying swastikas") Pelosi. Lies, lies and more lies."

4 posted on 08/16/2009 3:20:07 AM PDT by Lecie
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To: driftdiver
does this flipping administration have any idea how many billion are in a trillion?

Once they run out of fingers they don't see the difference more zeros make.

5 posted on 08/16/2009 3:29:53 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Scanian
Part of the President's answer included blaming a previous administration.

Obama is fast earning the title "Capt. Queeg". Maybe we should flood the White House with ball bearings or frozen strawberries.

6 posted on 08/16/2009 3:56:41 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Diogenesis
When I see all the "plants" in Obama's so-called "town hall" meetings, I can't help but think that to Obama, all of the world truly is a stage, and he and a select few are the players.

We've got to keep exposing the plants, and getting the information out quickly. Let people know that Obama's sales pitch is nothing but a con job bestowed upon the American people. It's all marketing. A good product sells itself, and this health care bill (not to mention 'Cap and Tax') is NOT a good product.

7 posted on 08/16/2009 4:14:52 AM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Scanian
Sunday "funnies"... "Obama at a Town Hall" (or just sounds like him...)


8 posted on 08/16/2009 4:31:43 AM PDT by WVKayaker (God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it.-D.Webster)
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To: Diogenesis

I’m confused. Who is the woman in the red circle? Roxana Mayer is the woman standing, isn’t she?


9 posted on 08/16/2009 4:47:47 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: All

Give the Precedent a break... Afterall, Yesterday, he said he could save thousands of lives and many millions of dollars per year, if he could just order those dirty old Doctors and Nurses to just wash their nasty old hands, in between patients.

Give the man a chance to save us from our ignorant selves.


10 posted on 08/16/2009 4:52:23 AM PDT by LegendHasIt (Do I really need to add that sarcasm tag?)
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To: Diogenesis

Can you believe that that ugly thing is wearing the same jacket in both pictures.

She must shop at the local “Goodwill”


11 posted on 08/16/2009 4:54:41 AM PDT by primatreat ( Enjoy! the Big "0" while he fornicates with our mind.:OUT WITH THE" GRIFTERS")
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To: Diogenesis

Never mind, I found this on the web...
http://patterico.com/2009/08/14/roxana-mayer-invited-to-town-hall-by-obama-organizer-who-sported-che-guevara-poster-at-obama-campaign-office/


12 posted on 08/16/2009 4:55:26 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

The woman in the red circle is an Obama volunteer who was photographed in an Obama campaign office in front of a Che Guevara poster last year.


13 posted on 08/16/2009 5:14:50 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Diogenesis

She looks like one of those fish people from a Lovecraft story.


14 posted on 08/16/2009 5:23:43 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Fish rot from the head down.)
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To: Scanian
The only organization calling him on his lies are us.
Free Republic.
Even Fox seems to give him a pass on the LIES. . . . .
15 posted on 08/16/2009 5:30:55 AM PDT by DeaconRed (GEICO Canceled advertising on Beck. I will NEVER use GEICO. . . . . .)
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To: Scanian
To my knowledge there has never been a person on the national stage who has completely fabricated himself and continues without hesitation to further that lie without compunction or apparent regret.

Furthermore, liars are always found out as they move about in the public eye...so one has to wonder about Obama's sanity (i.e. it is grossly irrational not to realize that your very integrity is at risk not if, but when you get caught).

Clinton was caught lying about a sexual relationship (which is not exactly unheard of among men) and it took a huge chuck out of his reputation.

Since Obama is using stagecraft (lies) to build his very self and position in office...he will go down in history as "one reviled."

And he will bring disgrace to those who have backed him...particularly those among his "race" (considering how much he has played upon that to win votes).

16 posted on 08/16/2009 5:43:53 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Voter#537

Fox frequently comments on his lies but they always treat them the same way—as politics as usual.


17 posted on 08/16/2009 5:58:42 AM PDT by Scanian
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