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Posted on 08/15/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by epow
WALLINGFORD - A usually quiet mobile home park was shaken Friday morning when about 15 officers from the U.S. bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and local police descended on one of their neighbor's homes with force.
"They had their guns drawn and were surrounding the house," said Jennifer Monroe
Lynne Boynton, of 15 Hosford Bridge Road, went to her husband's truck for coffee money at about 6 a.m. and was pushed to the driveway and handcuffed with an officer's knee in her back and a gun to her head.
ATF officers surrounded her father-in-law's home at Western Sands Mobile Home Park and used a battering ram to enter the unlocked home in the rear, Boynton said.
"They were pouring out of there like crazy," said Monroe, who can easily see the front door. "They had Lynne in handcuffs. We were like 'What are they looking for?' "
Once inside, officers pulled Gilman Boynton and Paul Boynton out of bed, the men said. Paul Boynton said three or four officers threw him to the floor and put a gun to his head. Gilman Boynton, 76, who suffers from a heart condition, was made to sit in the living room, he said.
"Don't I have any rights?" a visibly shaken Gilman Boynton said. "I've been living here for over 40 years. The police have been here and seen my guns."
The family was told by ATF officers that the agency received a tip six weeks ago that a convicted felon was living at the home and had access to guns, Lynne Boynton said. Paul Boynton was arrested 34 years ago at the age of 17 with a friend who had forged a check. He hasn't been arrested since, he said.
Gilman Boynton is a gun collector, who keeps his rifles
(Excerpt) Read more at myrecordjournal.com ...
Read the linked article for the full outrageous story
This raid is typical of what BATF was so well known for during the Clinton era, and the old BATF that was relatively restrained during the Bush years is back with a vengeance now that an even more committed gun-hater than the Clintons is in charge. I turned in my Federal Firearms Licence and got out of my small time gun business after two years of harassment by BATF that began a few months after Clinton took office. The total number of licensed gun dealers fell from approximately 190 thousand to around 10 thousand during Clinton's time in office due to this same kind of Gestapo-like harassment and persecution by BATF designed to intimidate legally operating gun dealers out of business. After being ordered to meet with BATF officials at the district BATF office I was was contacted by my county zoning board and told to cease operations due my location having been rezoned non-commercial. When I called the zoning board to protest that I was grandfathered into the zone, and that several other businesses were openly operating within 100 yards or less of my little operation I was told that complaints has been made about my operation but no other complaints had been made about the others in that area.
Obama is more ant-gun than Clinton ever was and no doubt wants to drive as many FFL dealers OOB as he can, so any of you who hold FFL's may as well get ready for the BATF's JBTs to show up on your premises at any time with the intention of harassing you out of business, and if they have the slightest excuse, to physically abuse and intimidate you, your employees, and family members if possible. After hearing of countless physical abuse outrages by BATF during the Clinton era I would advise anyone not to physically resist the BATF thugs when they show up at your pace, they are just looking for an excuse to use the violent tactics that resulted in serious injuries and even deaths of innocent people during the Clinton years.
someone screwed up big time......
Where’s the linked article?
did anyone see geraldine and rick s on foxnews a minute ago? why should townhallers be more respectful of a gov who calls them names and wont listen.....
Bad link
ya he may be a freeper....
Got them jack boots on again it seems.
I’d love to see that affidavit for search warrant.
Battering ram on an open door, gee, first thing they teach you at brown shirt school is to see if the door is open before knocking it down.
Well, there you have it, a government that cannot find an illegal alien in LA can throw old people on the floor out of bed at 5AM.
Something like this had all the earmarks of something that could have gone very bad and the result would have been one or two innocent civilians.
This is an old article from last June, but it’s still very much pertinent IMHO since the raid on an innocent family’s home is almost like a public announcement that the old BATF Gestapo of the Clinton era is back in the saddle with it’s same old intimidation tactics.
I went to your link and only found this amazing article...
“My husband was dying for some cucumbers.”
Was the article about veggies?
Who is going to send them a great lawyer? Are these folks GOP supporters? I hope these folks get very rich off this! This needs to happen to “Queen Janet”!
Sorry if the tardy post offended you, see #11 for my reason for posting it.
As the Obama mal-administration becomes more openly active in pursuing it's radical ant-gun agenda there will be many more outrages like this one only much worse. Anyone who holds an FFL (Federal Firearms License) had better be prepared for what's coming.
When JBTs attack...
Yes,I saw that exchange. Geraldine and Rick need to take a long walk off a short pier!
If that wasn't bad enough,Fox had The Home Depot idiot,demonstrate how to climb a ladder. Personally, I LMAO at that!
Re-adjust your tin foil hat, it’s a might tight.
This is a non-story.
What are those old buzzards croaking about, anyway?
It’s not as if they required stitches! H*ll, the officers never even shot their dang dog!
They should consider themselves lucky that they are served by such devoted public servants.
It’s good to be reminded of what can and will happen again. Thanks for posting this!
Yep, it's open season again on gun owners, and this time there's a real communist giving the orders. Clinton was just a wannabe dictator, but this guy is the real thing. The JBTs must really enjoy throwing children down on their faces and cuffing them with a gun at their head, they seem to do a lot of that kind of thing whenever they raid an innocent man's home and assault his family.
Apparently the JBTs expected a major OK Corral type firefight at the old man's home since they brought along 15 heavily armed agents and local cops to subdue that vicious, dangerous, gun-slinging criminal who with malice aforethought violently passed a bad check 34 years ago. Thus proving that he is still a highly dangerous threat to the lives and property of the entire community today, and can't be trusted to live in the same house with his father's gun collection.
How the government can kill citizens and get away with it.
Raid an innocent citizen’s house at 4 AM. The citizen uses his natural right to protect himself and his family and tries to repel the invader with deadly force.
The government’s forces (trained to never question orders) happily shoot the citizen.
The innocent citizen is dead, and a lawsuit will take years, and all you get is money, not your family member. The government forces talk over beers about how that a$$hole resisted, and how they were forced to use deadly force.
Nice post, no clue what state Wallingford is in. There’s more than one BTW like that should be even be a question. It’s common sense. The article and the poster have no clue everyone doesn’t know which state this city is in.
Thanks.
Actually, I wasn't wearing my tinfoil hat the day I was verbally assaulted at a regional BATF office during Clinton's war on FFL gun dealers, so I make sure I keep it handy nowadays.
If you happen to have a gun in your home, which is strictly your choice and your own business, you might want to know what can happen, and has happened, to innocent people when an out of control rogue agency such as BATF goes on the prowl backed by an administration with a Nazi mindset. It Gestapo style thuggery employed on innocent Americans in their own homes by a US federal agency doesn't bother you, sleep well and don't let yourself become alarmed by any of Obama's "change".
Welcome to life in Hussein’s Amerika! ATTRITION!! The PEOPLE will win through ATTRITION. If one good guy can take out one bad guy before they get him, Hussein will run out of brownshirts.
Apparently Wallingford is in CT. The paper’s website doesn’t mention what state it’s in, but there is a Wallingford shown on my CT roadmap.
I knew that before I posted. But it’s like posting something happened in Springfield. Dam*, there’s more than one Springfield even in the same state.
I was wondering too. Looks like it’s in Connecticut or at least in the New England area.
And that does happen just as you described, it really does, and right here in the good old USA where everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I think that's the place in the Constitution where we're supposed to laugh.
If anyone thinks I'm exaggerating the facts about BATF just ask Randy Weaver how his wife and 14 YO son are getting along these days thanks to BATF's JBTs.
A usually quiet mobile home park ...
Stop right there. I’m willing to bet there is no such thing as a “usually quiet mobile home park”.
If I understand correctly, and I may not, Heller only applies to the DC, although the court did rule that the 2nd protects an individual right rather than merely a right of the states.
I don't fully understand the practice of the judiciary "incorporating" a BOR amendment into the 14th Amendment, which supposedly guarantees all the Constitutional rights to all the people. I'm no law expert by any means, but the so-called "incorporation doctrine" sounds to me like just another excuse invented by the courts to deny the people the rights we were supposedly guaranteed by the authors of the Constitution.
Oh yeah, there are plenty of very quiet mobile home parks in south Florida where I used to live. Shuffleboard is a quiet game unless a couple of unusually spry nonagenarians (90+ year olds) get into a squabble over whose turn it is to shuffle.
A usually quiet mobile home park..
I stopped right there.
There's no such thing as a 'quiet mobile home Trailer park'.
There are some good cops, but you can't tell the difference by looking.
This article is three months old and it was posted to FR when it was current.
Gilman Boynton, 76, said that despite his repeated efforts to get an explanation, he has not been informed of the reason why ATF officials conducted the raid. He said the seizure has left him feeling like his second amendment rights have been violated.
“I've got three questions I want answered,” Boynton said. “Why were we targeted? What were they looking for? And who were they after?”
Federal officials said this week they were acting on “credible intelligence” and that their investigation revealed the agents acted appropriately when they seized the weapons.
The raid took place in the early morning hours on May 15, when agents awoke Boynton, his son Paul Gilman Boynton, 51, and daughter-in-law Lynne Boynton, 50, and proceeded to search the entire home.
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They left one weapon, a Beretta that was locked in a safe, and have since returned two others - guns made before 1898, which federal law considers antiques, not firearms.
Gilman Boynton said ATF officials were cordial when the returned the two guns but that he was told he won't be able to reclaim his other weapons.
Lynne and Paul Boynton declined comment for this article.
James McNally, spokesman for the ATF Boston Field Division, said Wednesday that agents followed protocol throughout the case and clarified that the guns would not be returned because the investigation found that living arrangements led to violations of U.S. codes.
“ATF followed the information they received and made a determination that the best course of action was to seize the guns,” McNally said. “After reviewing the facts of the case, there were no charges filed and will be no charges unless there is a significant change in the case, but the guns will not be returned.”
By having the guns in the home at the same time as Boynton’s son, ATF officials said the family was in violation of code 18 USC 622(d) which restricts certain groups from owning guns or living in home where guns are accessible.
Boynton said his son had been staying in the home to assist with a family medical issue, but ATF officials said because certain guns were accessible it violated federal law.
A criminal history report obtained from the Connecticut Department of Public Safety Wednesday revealed that although there have not been any active cases since 1992 regarding Paul Boynton, he had several prior arrests including felony convictions for drug possession and forgery. These convictions violate two sections of the code and require that officials take action to seize the weapons.
But for Gilman Boynton, the seizure of a collection that he spent more than 60 years building has seemed more than a little unfair.
“I've lived at this location, largely without my son present, for more than 40 years,” he said. “I've kept my gun permit the whole time. Don't I have certain rights to my property?”
Boynton has tried to seek legal assistance but was told he didn't qualify for low-cost programs because of the type of case, and added that the only lawyer who would take his request has asked for a $20,000 retainer that he can't afford.
It's not about money or even getting his weapons back at this point, Boynton said, but about finding a way to protect the his second amendment rights and the rights of other low-income earners who do not have the money to take an agency like the ATF to court to regain their property.
“Honestly, if they had come back to me and said ‘we were wrong’ or ‘our information wasn't exact’ and just returned my items, I'd have been more than happy to be done with it,” he said. “Right now my focus is making sure others don't suffer the same kind of loss I have.” WALLINGFORD - Three months after officers with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives raided a mobile home on Hosford Bridge Road and seized 14 guns, the home's owner still has many questions. Gilman Boynton, 76, said that despite his repeated efforts to get an explanation, he has not been informed of the reason why ATF officials conducted the raid. He said the seizure has left him feeling like his second amendment rights have been violated. "I've got three questions I want answered," Boynton said. "Why were we targeted? What were they looking for? And who were they after?" Federal officials said this week they were acting on "credible intelligence" and that their investigation revealed the agents acted appropriately when they seized the weapons. The raid took place in the early morning hours on May 15, when agents awoke Boynton, his son Paul Gilman Boynton, 51, and daughter-in-law Lynne Boynton, 50, and proceeded to search the entire home. Advertisement They left one weapon, a Beretta that was locked in a safe, and have since returned two others - guns made before 1898, which federal law considers antiques, not firearms. Gilman Boynton said ATF officials were cordial when the returned the two guns but that he was told he won't be able to reclaim his other weapons. Lynne and Paul Boynton declined comment for this article. James McNally, spokesman for the ATF Boston Field Division, said Wednesday that agents followed protocol throughout the case and clarified that the guns would not be returned because the investigation found that living arrangements led to violations of U.S. codes. "ATF followed the information they received and made a determination that the best course of action was to seize the guns," McNally said. "After reviewing the facts of the case, there were no charges filed and will be no charges unless there is a significant change in the case, but the guns will not be returned." By having the guns in the home at the same time as Boynton's son, ATF officials said the family was in violation of code 18 USC 622(d) which restricts certain groups from owning guns or living in home where guns are accessible. Boynton said his son had been staying in the home to assist with a family medical issue, but ATF officials said because certain guns were accessible it violated federal law. A criminal history report obtained from the Connecticut Department of Public Safety Wednesday revealed that although there have not been any active cases since 1992 regarding Paul Boynton, he had several prior arrests including felony convictions for drug possession and forgery. These convictions violate two sections of the code and require that officials take action to seize the weapons. But for Gilman Boynton, the seizure of a collection that he spent more than 60 years building has seemed more than a little unfair. "I've lived at this location, largely without my son present, for more than 40 years," he said. "I've kept my gun permit the whole time. Don't I have certain rights to my property?" Boynton has tried to seek legal assistance but was told he didn't qualify for low-cost programs because of the type of case, and added that the only lawyer who would take his request has asked for a $20,000 retainer that he can't afford. It's not about money or even getting his weapons back at this point, Boynton said, but about finding a way to protect the his second amendment rights and the rights of other low-income earners who do not have the money to take an agency like the ATF to court to regain their property. "Honestly, if they had come back to me and said 'we were wrong' or 'our information wasn't exact' and just returned my items, I'd have been more than happy to be done with it," he said. "Right now my focus is making sure others don't suffer the same kind of loss I have."
http://www.myrecordjournal.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=20358718&BRD=2755&PAG=461&dept_id=592709&rfi=6
we to get the democrats and out obama of office,then disband this group of vermin and permanently ban them from any jobs in law enforcement
Sleep with one eye open and one hand filled with a personal defense weapon.
The Wallingford this took place in, is in CT.
Like there are some good Democrats?
Kinda like that, yeah. ‘Cept any support for a decent human who might also be a local (city or county) democrat translate into support for the evil at higher levels of office (state and fed). Ain’t a chance of me going there.
Yes, it is CT. I just added that to the topics list. I used to live in this town...this is truly scary!!! Actually, the Wallingford Police dept is pretty pro-gun. I used to shoot and hunt with the (now deceased) Deputy Chief of police.
i do, however, believe the raid might have been a bit much. a couple agents in suits knocking on the door might have been sufficient.
“someone screwed up big time......”
No, that is exactly the kind of Nazi filth they are.
Each and every employee of the BATF should be stripped of his citizenship and expelled from the country.
“well, do we support felons having access to guns or don’t we? can’t have it both ways.”
Certainly you can. You can get people with a judicial temperament to examine cases on their individual merits and determine if there are grounds to deprive the person in question of his God-given right to self defense.
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